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    A relative spent all morning waiting in line to get an appt for a midnight vaccination! Other friends packed up the family and went to Honduras for shots.

    Peak prosperity dude say a natural gas shortage is hitting Yurrup. Seems they let production and storage go to crap and now cannot play catchup in time for winter. UK says they don't have tanker drivers. that's an easy one--just import some third worlders. Surplus of Afganis on the world market right now

    They only thing good about covid vaccines is that there are other players in the world beside the Former United States. You'd think somebody would get it right eventually.

    And while you are reading old books, don't forget Lord of the Flies.

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    Most of the EU gas is a Putinism as the majority of EU supply is from Gazprom

    The driver shortage is a secondary effect of Brexit - Oh to be free of the EU :-) - Get rid of all of those f'uriners and regular Brits will line up for those jobs - Yea right - Same with agricultural workers in NA - Just not gonna happen.
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    Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline direct from Russia to Germany under the North Sea was completed last month. A feather in departing Merkel's bonnet. It had to be approved by Biden - he was involved cause of the memory of those two aligning before WWII to create a global shitstorm.

    Gazprom's first pipeline to EU runs thru Ukraine. It's not just highly regulated by EU, but Ukraine takes its cut, so they're balking at the by-pass. Now the EU is throwing up legal barriers to 2.

    Russia, like the US after fracking, has a mega-abundance of natural gas. The US' overabundance of gas & oil got shut down by the Build Back Green crowd running the show now. So it'll be a cold winter in the US, which is why the tropics is such a nice place to be then, except that Nica's dependence on bunker for electricity generation may make it rather costly to stay up late.

    Germany went gang-busters on Green a couple decades ago, but has since seen the light of reason.

    Hey, never forget those aren't real vaccines. Never got one for the common cold, a coronavirus. And the biggest failure for modern vaccine medicine was AIDS, which was finally brought "under control" by a cocktail of antivirals, despite Fauci's interference at the time.

    I'd reread Aldous Huxley first. Just a couple drops of alcohol in the test tubes with developing fetuses and voilà! the next crop of agricultural workers.

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    A nod to George O: "Attorney General Merrick Garland has turned the FBI into George Orwell's thought police by classifying angry parents at school board meetings as "domestic terrorists."
    __ from https://nypost.com/2021/10/06/libera...ll-in-the-fbi/

    The National School Boards Association is asking that parents be prosecuted under the PATRIOT Act and federal hate crimes legislation. That'll teach 'em.

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    Ticos times article today says they are going mandatory vaccination with plenty of legal history.

    "Support mental health or I'll break your head"

    Covid was an intelligence test and we flunked.



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    Quote Originally Posted by el duende grande View Post
    TicoTimes article today says they are going mandatory vaccination...
    "applies to all public-sector officials as well as “employees of the private sector whose employers ... choose to incorporate such vaccination as mandatory” Funny wording, but leaving the option to the owner-bosses. Not good authoritarians those Ticos.

    Not clear what the penalty is for hold-outs. In the land of the once free, it's either your job, pension, education &/or a (dishonorable?) discharge from the military. No more free beers or scholastic lotteries, I guess. Curiously there's no force of law behind US companies that choose not to go along with the "mandate". The Dems never bothered to make the OSHA law that was threatened.

    And how about those Southwest pilots & mechanics and the air traffic controllers that are balking at being forced to get the jab - US citizens with backbones?

    "About 3.5 million people have received at least one dose; Costa Rica hopes to inoculate 4.27 million people, comprising all citizens and residents ages 12 and up." Apparently they didn't get the bribe from Pfizer for vaxing those under 12.

    Sing along: everybody must get vaxed, to Dylan's tune Everybody Must Get Stoned.

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    Now,, anti viral pills are all the rage. Not ivermectin, though.
    No one will admit that they were wrong on that one.

    Now that more vaccinated people are getting Covid, than the non vaccinated:

    "Yes, but less are hospitalized, and fewer are dying" they say.

    Well,, across the general population,, MOST didn't go to the hospital or die.
    We just suffered a couple of weeks, got better, and got on with our lives.

    After suffering through a basic math tutorial from WHO, they suggest an IFR (infection fatality rate) of .5 to 1%
    I'm not sure if this counts the asymptomatic cases who were hit by a bus, shot on the streets of Chicago,,
    and subsequently tested positive at the hospital.

    https://www.who.int/news-room/commen...ted%20cases%3A


    God help us if something real comes along.

    As an aside,, the news report that the US was canceling a Covid vaccine contract with Emergent disclosed the info that it wasn't going to affect Emergent's bottom line.
    They still have multi million dollar contracts to provide the US with >>> small pox vaccines,, among others.
    Someone must know something that they are not telling us sheep.

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    The greatest deception of the US regime's Covid 'vaccine' mandates is their insistence on requiring the jab for those who have acquired immunity thru prior infection. It makes no sense, since it results in a superior anti-Covid immunity system (with T-cells now involved combating the actual SARS-CoV-2 virus). Of course, no explanation is given to the public, who are happier being ignorant.

    For some reason, the gov't is determined to have an entire population with spike-protein-making m-RNA coursing through their veins. Boosters will be important.

    Quote Originally Posted by KeyWestPirate View Post
    As an aside, ... the US was canceling a Covid vaccine contract with Emergent disclosed the info that it wasn't going to affect Emergent's bottom line.
    They still have multi million dollar contracts to provide the US with >>> small pox vaccines,, among others. Someone must know something that they are not telling us sheep.
    Pirate, I don't understand your point, unless you're referring to info affecting a buy/sell decision.

    The contract was signed in 2012 for pandemic-preparedness. Emergent has used some $450M of the $600M to build facilities outside Baltimore. But they had problems making Covid-19 vaccines (probably didn't figure on developing m-RNA technology). Emergent gave up its option to extend the contract for 25 yrs.

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    Pirate, I don't understand your point, unless you're referring to info affecting a buy/sell decision.


    My point is,, why are they manufacturing small pox vaccines ? A weaponized small pox was the virus of choice of the Soviets. They had it loaded into warheads, refrigerated, to maintain its viability through re-entry.
    We HAD some time back enough small pox vaccine to inoculate everyone in the US.

    Biological warfare makes sense.
    Maintain infrastructure and resources intact. No need to feed a massive population.
    Survivors work for free. Happy to just be alive.

    You've been vaccinated,, as have I. Several times.
    It was a long time ago, but some immunity probably persists.
    Survival confers life long immunity.

    Most of the US population is not vaccinated against smallpox.

    So, the planned response was to establish a ring around the infection point. Lock it down hard, nothing goes in or out,, and vaccinate inwards from the periphery of the ring.
    Kiss the center goodbye.
    Just stop the spread.



    https://www.cdc.gov/smallpox/vaccine...ccination.html

    Covid was a pandemic for snowflakes compared to what potentially is out there.

    Common smallpox has a fatality rate of 30%, but there are varieties that are 100% fatal.
    Supposedly,, the Soviets were attempting to boost the quality of infection , to make it easier to catch.
    Kind of like the flu

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    Inquiring minds want to know--what percentage of people getting fired for not taking the vaccine are white males and what percentage of their replacements will be non-whites and females. Oh yeah, and the sexually ambiguous?

    "Support mental health or I'll break your head"

    Covid was an intelligence test and we flunked.



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    On those mandated jabs, court says OSHA doesn't have the power to enforce 'em and besides which they're relying almost completely on snitches, oops, I mean, whistleblowers, which is pretty much how the FBI was able to arrest all those in or near the Capitol for the pro-Trump rally/election-protest on Jan 6 and lock them away without a hearing or bail in perpetuity, some in solitary. That is, lock away those who were not working directly for the FBI or DNC, who, as it turned out, were numerous and the worst actors, those who led the entry into the Capitol building and who provoked & goaded others to join in. (Color revolution training)

    With greater & greater reliance on anonymous whistleblowers, pitting faceless citizens against those who dare show their face in public, they are successfully achieving their masters' Marxist goal of dividing the American nation.

    And, by the bye, the Biden regime has shifted the Dec 8 deadline to comply with the 'vaccine' mandate or else to Jan 4.
    All praise Papa Christmas and Mr.-Happy-New-Year for such generosity!

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    It's looking more and more like the vaccine mandate is not going to happen.
    Court push back,, Dem governor from Kansas claiming that this exceeds Fed's constitutional powers

    Military sure,, Biden is CIC (scary thought), and federal workers, unless courts step in.
    Private sector,, less of a sure thing.

    It's less anti-vax in my read,, and more a push back against "shut up and do what you are told"

    In any case, 2021 is being defined at the moment,, and it looks hopeful

    I had some friends decide to vote today,, "If we don't,, Ortega will just steal our votes"

    Rock and hard place,, no one to vote for, but it seems that no voting would send a message.
    Then again,, there might be a list generated of non voters.

    Still over 2K daily deaths from Covid in the US,, but no one seems to care that much.
    And now,, you are statistically at greater risk to be infected IF you are vaccinated,, than not.

    I'm still going to get the shot, tie it in with my annual blood work, poking and probing, flu shot, "what else you got for me"?

    Getting some of those new anti covid, anti viral pills is a goal too, >>>>>> if I can get them for free.
    Stash them away for the next pandemic.

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    OK, so a lifetime of booster shots every 3-5 months may be a hard sell.
    There's a back-up plan:
    "The U.S. gov’mint struck a deal to purchase 10 million courses of Pfizer's new COVID-19 antiviral pill at a cost of $5.29 billion. The treatment reportedly cuts hospitalizations and deaths by around 90% ..." - Newsweek, 11/19/21

    $529 per 'course' is a bargain basement deal!
    Who said Big Pharma were a bunch of money-hungry bastards?

    Never mind that many of us have already been taking antivirals since April/May of 2020. But that was the cheap shit: zinc, hydroxychloroquin, azithromycine, ivermectin, ... Though damned-well effective when popped early, during onset symptoms. Despite what a army of quack doctors (shills for Big P) have said against 'em. But it only cost about a $1 per 'course'. And that's a problem.

    Everybody knows, the more you pay, the more it's worth.

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    I wonder if the anti viral pills will work for flu too ?

    Supposedly,, flu was way down last year. Because we were wearing masks and washing our hands.
    OK,, I can accept that. Makes sense.
    Whether the cure is worse than the disease,, "aayy, there's the rub" as Hamlet said.

    There is some anti viral -spray in your nose- for flu now. Relanza. Seems more convenient than a pill.
    If you keep your hands out of your mouth,, that is where the virus has to enter.

    If I can get it for free I might try it.
    I have an appointment for my annual wellness check on Tuesday and I have a pretty long list.
    I'm going to try and sneak in a booster for my J & J Covid:
    "I don't have my card with me but I can come back with it and you can write it in"

    Handy, no downside except for price with the nose spray.
    Makes more sense than a mask.

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    A pleasant, old Brit summarizes a peer-reviewed scientific paper that compares antiviral drugs Ivermectin (which is inexpensive and proven safe) and Merck’s Molnupiravir (which is new, on patent, and only had one clinical trial).


    Quote Originally Posted by KeyWestPirate View Post
    I wonder if the anti viral pills will work for flu too?
    Yes, indeed they do.

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    What? Even in Canada? Is Dr. Charles Hoffe real, or some actor working for a disinformation campaign?
    https://rumble.com/viuuop-doctor-pun...d-vaccine.html

    Meanwhile, south of the border, more than 30 professors and scientists from some of America's top universities filed a suit in August to expedite an FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) request for the data that the FDA used for the approval of Pfizer's COVID-19 “vaccine”.
    Last week, the FDA asked a federal judge for 55 years to complete the FOIA request. https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/...vid-19-vaccine
    Nothing to hide?

    To the coordinated censorship by Media-Big Tech-Big Pharma bending all Western gov'ts to their will, Dr. Robert Malone, who invented the mRNA 'vaccine' technology, said, "The future of global totalitarianism is here today."

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    A story on rebel news only appeals to angry old Canadian men yelling at younger people to get off (their snow covered) lawns.

    Apparently he still a registered GP in BC even thought the story is dated late June
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    So,,, his final words were:

    We need our leaders to be more definitive

    (Someone go wake Brandon up. And change his diaper).

    So, how did we get here? During the Trump development of the vaccines,, the DEMs swore,, and I paraphrase:

    I would NEVER take that untested Trump vaccine. Never.

    NOW, their line is,,

    take the vaccine or lose your job, etc,, etc


    One would think that the Dems,, especially the Squat, would be pushing ivermectin. They HATE big pharma with a passion. But, they are NOT pushing ivermectin,, in fact, most Americans don't have access to it. Pharmacists won't fill prescriptions, doctors are afraid to prescribe it.CNN says that it's only suitable as a horse dewormer, ignoring the 3.7 billion doses given safely to humans. It has less side effects than Viagra.

    An eye opener for me was the finding that taken prophylactically was 86% effective. How many lives could have been saved for 53 cents each?
    OK, it WAS one study, but telling here is the total lack of interest in studying Ivermectin as a re-purposed drug for Covid.

    The reality is,, Ivermectin IS being used. It's handed out by Minsa in Nicaragua,, and it's probably being used in the developing world.
    It's a drug that everyone can afford.

    We've been turned into some combination of mushroom and sheep.
    That is NOT who Americans are.
    We kick ass and take names and save the world from commie domination.

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    Here's what you can't see on TV. Mass protests - from around the world - against vaccine mandates and lockdowns. Most of the videos are less than a minute each.
    https://brownstone.org/video-podcast...ver-the-world/
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    Darn it - The Iluminati/Fauchi got to Col Chris Hadfield - Canadian Astronaut BEng MEng Msc etc etc etc..

    His post today on the EU
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    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...sion-by-40-who

    WHO chief says vaccines were only 60% effective before Delta and are now only 40% effective. That's one bunch of crappy vaccines. I'm glad my dogs' rabie shots are better than 40% effective.
    Plan on masks and stuff for a long time. Tourism and travel are big spreaders, and CR is already up to pre-pandemic travel levels.

    netnet, the Xmas Massacre will be here soon but less bad than last year.

    "Support mental health or I'll break your head"

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    A new generation of Covid-19 treatments will soon be available, and they matter more than many people realize. They have the potential to substantially reduce hospitalization and death. … they can help turn Covid into a more ordinary respiratory disease, similar to the common cold or flu, ...
    “Two treatments are on the way — one from Pfizer and one from Merck — and they will have both medical and psychological benefits. Not only can they reduce serious Covid illness, but they can also reduce Covid fears and help society move back to normalcy, lessening the pandemic’s huge social and economic side effects.
    - from todays’ NYTimes, by David Leonhardt

    We’ve known ANTIVIRALS like Zn/HCQ, Ivermectin and more work, tho outlawed by the greedy bastards running this wanna-be-totalitarian nation subservient to the CCP that created the global pandemic in the first place.

    And some are still pushing boosters, despite knowing how ineffective they are in preventing the spread of the variants. And ignoring natural immunity, gained from having had Covid, despite its proven superiority to the mRNA ‘vaccines’.

    Would it surprise you to learn that the Chinese have an honest SARS-CoV-2 vaccine, not some mRNA sideshow? They are not mandating their people to get jabbed with the mRNA ‘fix’. Nor have I read that they’re mandating their own vaccine. They’re still pushing totalitarian lockdowns where the virus is found. What do they know? Science?



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    I have weekly one on one's with my Co-worker in Tokyo

    His wife works in an elder care - 200 plus residents. (Thats is why his wife and he were in the first 15% of Japanese residents to receive the Pfizer)

    I asked him about this "All of Japan uses Ivermectin as a preventative treatment" rumor that seems to be circulating in the "Alternative" news circles.

    His wife asked the staff Dr. at the facility and it is all a bunch of poppy cock.

    No Ivermectin approval nor permission by the Equivalent Medical Association in Japan (E.G. AMA or CMA equivalent)
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    Much mis information,, true.
    We're seeing the same thing with the new variant

    I was watching PBS NewsHour yesterday.
    Rare to see any criticism of Brandon on PBS,, but there is was.

    And we tend to believe what we want to believe.
    That colors our objectivity.

    I'm not hearing any Covid buzz from Nicaragua.

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    Covid is a rich man's disease that they get skiing in the Alps.

    Meanwhile, I stopped at the bank today because the line on the sidewalk was very short. Too bad the bank itself was stuffed and the guards were enforcing a "1 in, 1 out' policy with a new twist-- they now have the guard sort people by 4 categories-- regular line, old codger line, express line, and customer service. It took a while but worked, but I think the guard's brain is going to explode.

    Tried to set up electronic deposit from US bank to Nic bank via Moneygram so I don't have to stand in line. They circle-jerked me. Don't know if they have hinky software or they tagged my Skype line or VPN or who knows what. When I am in the States I will get it working, maybe set up 2 systems to be safe.

    What I heard about Ivermectin is that Japan allows it but does not promote it. Like aspirating the needle, unless you ask nobody is going to mention it.

    So far omni is known to be gobbling up the market share of delta, which might even be a good thing if it is in fact a milder form. Not all vaccines are mRNA-- johnson, sputnik and others are not and they are still crappy vaccines.

    "Support mental health or I'll break your head"

    Covid was an intelligence test and we flunked.



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