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    https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle...=wnl_edit_tpal


    So, a Nobel Prize winning medication that changed the lives of millions for the better, and was discounted on CNN as a horse dewormer, prevails.

    I've always believed "The Truth Eventually Comes Out" but with the current media manipulation, and the predominance of Big Tech controlling the flow of information,, it's coming out a lot slower.

    How many lives could have been changed with early treatment using the simple, inexpensive,, ivermectin, azith, and dexamethazone ??


    At least we've learned out lessons for the next one.
    Some of us . . .

    One of the big pluses of living in Nicaragua is,, you can get the medication you need, quickly (important) and inexpensively.
    I had a tree branch scratch the side of my next, reached up with a dirty hand to see if the skin was broken, and the next day had a staph infection at the site.

    BUT, since I had Cephalexin in house,, and could being treatment immediately,, the infection cleared up in a day or two.


    It's odd,, we live in what is clearly a (for most part benevolent) dictatorship, but have far more autonomy over our lives than in the US.

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    Default Re: So, The Sage of Leon Will Be Proved Right

    Ivermectin is made in Nicaragua, Laboratorios Ramos. A 6mg pill costs roughly a nickel. I take one a week as a preventative since I go everywhere without a mask.

    Quote Originally Posted by KeyWestPirate View Post
    At least we've learned out lessons for the next one.
    Some of us . . .
    Makes one wonder. What's that saying? "The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.". Many are content just gliding along, trusting authority. As Rousseau put it, "Man is born free and everywhere he is in chains." Hell, man, they're comfortable, velvet-wrapped chains.


    Quote Originally Posted by KeyWestPirate View Post
    It's odd,, we live in what is clearly a (for most part benevolent) dictatorship, but have far more autonomy over our lives than in the US.
    Politics is normally pretty distant from most people's lives. It's social differences, cultural differences. Just compare two professions in our two worlds: lawyers and doctors. Liability laws, lawsuits, contracts, all is insured (your health, life, car, house, and so on), you must be licenced to practice a trade, to earn a living at damned near any trade, ... and there're few meds you can buy without a prescription that only a doc can give you, for a price. That's life in the USA.

    In Nicaragua if you step into the hole in front of your neighbor's house, that's your own dumb fault. When I first drove there in 2006 I didn't need insurance. The capitalists, the financiers changed that and want to change much more there. But what chance does a little country have going up against global finance?

    Big Pharma with the help of an epidemic of willful medical stupidity in the ruling (developed) countries has made great wealth and taught compliant politicians how their subjects and those of satellite countries can be controlled. Yes, authoritarian capitalism can compete with totalitarian communism.
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    I've read that aspirin also helps. The biggest help is turning off your TV set.

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    Yes, authoritarian capitalism can compete with totalitarian communism.



    And that is what we have here, a queer blend of some socialism (free medical care, but no welfare or EBT) and a savage buyer beware capitalism.

    You work here or you starve (except for the FSLN minions). If you are connected, you have a big leg up, obviously, but no different than being born into a wealthy family.

    It's an odd economy where you can make more selling chips at a good location than you can make from a day's labor.
    A degree in business administration gets you a job as a bank clerk, $350 - $400, about what a teacher or nurse makes.

    A lot of campesinos take day work for $5 or $6 /day.

    Still,, many have no rent or other expense.
    It's enough,, but not enough to get ahead

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyWestPirate View Post
    Yes, authoritarian capitalism can compete with totalitarian communism.



    And that is what we have here, a queer blend of some socialism (free medical care, but no welfare or EBT) and a savage buyer beware capitalism.

    You work here or you starve (except for the FSLN minions). If you are connected, you have a big leg up, obviously, but no different than being born into a wealthy family.

    It's an odd economy where you can make more selling chips at a good location than you can make from a day's labor.
    A degree in business administration gets you a job as a bank clerk, $350 - $400, about what a teacher or nurse makes.

    A lot of campesinos take day work for $5 or $6 /day.

    Still,, many have no rent or other expense.
    It's enough,, but not enough to get ahead
    Great way of putting it. Few people will ever gain this insight, I'm glad you put it as succinctly as you did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyWestPirate View Post
    You work here or you starve (except for the FSLN minions).
    I'm going on 15 yrs in Nicaragua and I've never seen or heard of anyone starving. Poor people here take care of one another. They share. Partly it's just the catholic philosophy, but there are a lot of big-hearted Nicas. There's a lot of overripe fruit in the marketplace at the end of the day; it ain't wasted. We tend to only see those of our economic strata and they are as stingy as we are. But the poor are a different breed of human.

    It is true the Sandinistas have somewhat formalized welfare with their neighborhood centers, but, as far as I know, they help all who come begging. Sure they'd expect political loyalty, but do they get it. Most, I'm sure, just play along, after all it's the only game in town.

    Quote Originally Posted by KeyWestPirate View Post
    It's an odd economy where you can make more selling chips at a good location than you can make from a day's labor. A lot of campesinos take day work for $5 or $6 /day.
    I greatly admire Nicas' entrepreneurial gumption. I wish I'd learned it, but I always believed I had to work for someone who had the money to pay me or some corporation or service. That was a job for me, by definition. Not all are adept at making a living from hawking stuff. And good salesmen are a special breed.
    Doing field work from your home gives you the freedom to skip a day - if you want to and can afford to - or it can help support a struggling sidewalk business. Most, if not all, Nicas grow up knowing they have to work. But they, without doubt, value their leisure time, which often is family time. Many, esp. men, love to loaf. Women, who love their gossip circles, still manage to stay busy doing nails or hair or knitting or something.

    Quote Originally Posted by KeyWestPirate View Post
    Still,, many have no rent or other expense.
    It's enough,, but not enough to get ahead
    And most Nicas have no mortgage, no cars, no expensive appliances - they're not modern wage-slaves, locked into lifelong debt. Of course, first world bankers want to convert them, even if under the boot of first world govmints.

    It's not that Nicas don't want the luxuries they see gringos have. But they generally accept life as they see it. Few are smitten with ambition. For them time=life. For most gringos time=money.

    "Progress is our most important product." But do we even know where we're headed, and what we're leaving behind? Technologically we're constantly changing. As human beings we're not so different from our ancestors, who had it rough, or so we convince ourselves. For young Nicas a cell phone is modern freedom, esp. with FB & WhatsApp (Does the Zuck actually make money off of all these third-world users?). For us it was cars, McMansions. bigger flatscreen TVs, faster computers, ... Horse-drawn carts are still used in much of Nicaragua. Very economical. What's the rush?

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    https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle...11018_MSCPEDIT


    "Ralph Lorigo doesn't see it that way. The attorney from Buffalo, New York, filed his first of several ivermectin lawsuits in January after being approached by the family of an 80-year-old woman who was in the hospital on a ventilator. His second case was later that month, for a hospitalized 65-year-old woman.


    In both cases, judges ordered hospitals to give the women get ivermectin as their families wanted.
    Both women survived their hospitalizations. "

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    From Medscape:
    On a PA losing his license for prescribing ivermectine, dexamethasone, azith


    In one case that was cited in the report, a 39-year-old patient contacted the pediatric clinic, and Miller spoke with the patient by phone. The patient reported that he had tested positive for COVID. Miller advised the patient to take supplements, including vitamin D and C, zinc, and melatonin, and he prescribed ivermectin, dexamethasone, and azithromycin. He did not perform an exam, verify the information that the patient had provided, advise the patient regarding interactions, or order follow-up testing, the report states.


    https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/961124?uac=122026BV&faf=1&sso=true&impID=3726313&s rc=mkm_covid_update_211019_MSCPEDIT



    What's queer about this is,, telemedicine is getting big,, if it had been anything else no one would have cared.

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    There is a great line in Twelve Monkeys,
    towards the end:

    "So, it's not about the virus, it's about doing what you are told"

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyWestPirate View Post
    There is a great line in Twelve Monkeys,
    towards the end:

    "So, it's not about the virus, it's about doing what you are told"
    Bingo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyWestPirate View Post
    There is a great line in Twelve Monkeys,
    towards the end:
    "So, it's not about the virus, it's about doing what you are told"
    I've got to rewatch that flic. I barely remember the plotline. Just the time-travel 'liberty' from a matrix-mechanical-prison into an insane asylum. And the frantic jibberish dialog.

    The virus wasn't some Chinese bioweapon funded by Fauci and capitalized on by a cast of millions of blue minions, but a regular old mad scientist's doing? The good old days.

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