Mztrjoe

Not do it again.

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Now that I have lived here in Nicaragua for 6 years people I know in the states have asked me. "If I had it to do over (moving to Nicaragua) would I?" My answer has been NO, knowing what I know now I never would have moved here. But I am here and have to make the best of it.

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  1. vinyljunkie77003's Avatar
    Care to elaborate?
  2. bill_bly_ca's Avatar
    I am with vinyljunkie on that one..

    Tell us a bit about yourself...
  3. Mztrjoe's Avatar
    My wife and I have been the target of a group of thugs here. Their goal as they have stated is to force us to leave Nicaragua and abandon our property. They have gone as far as renting a property next to us and blasting ranchero music 6 am to 2 am 7 days a week at levels as high as 120db in our house. They were finally evicted for not paying the rent but they have some friends that continue the harassment. My fence has been cut several times and garden hoses and outdoor equipment have been damaged several times and this has gone on for nearly 2 years. I have had my house for sale for close to a year now and finally put it on viviun in July. They have toned things down a little bit since I have made it clear that I will only sell my house to a foreigner. So my answer is still the same I would never want to go through this again.
  4. bill_bly_ca's Avatar
    It is a rough place.

    So are you implying that the first 4 yrs were OK but then you became the target of attention?

    P.S Ranchero, Bachata or Regaton @ 120db is not uncommon for sure. What makes you believe that it was targeted at you? I have family (in laws) that will without hesitation pop a CD in our stereo and crank it and act completely puzzled (honestly) on why I find it impolite.. We live in Canada and my Wife is from Nica.. When we visit music is on @ 5AM and goes at an "exuberant" level far past 2...
  5. Mztrjoe's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by bill_bly_ca
    It is a rough place.

    So are you implying that the first 4 yrs were OK but then you became the target of attention?

    P.S Ranchero, Bachata or Regaton @ 120db is not uncommon for sure. What makes you believe that it was targeted at you? I have family (in laws) that will without hesitation pop a CD in our stereo and crank it and act completely puzzled (honestly) on why I find it impolite.. We live in Canada and my Wife is from Nica.. When we visit music is on @ 5AM and goes at an "exuberant" level far past 2...

    The reason that I know we were the target is that the first thing they did was demand we pay them 5 thousand dollars or they would force us to leave Nicaragua.
  6. bill_bly_ca's Avatar
    No ambiguity there...

    I am guessing there was a red and black flag or two on the property before they were tossed I suspect...
  7. Jonh's Avatar
    This has happened to others.
  8. Daddy-YO's Avatar
    Hey, Bigh Jonh, why is it I can't read any of the comments on this blog here? Is it a permission thing? I can read enuf on 'What's New?' to know I'm interested.

    By the bye, the geometrical babe on your new header is OK, well, colorful. But I miss the gnarly geezer who was up there before. He looked like the "real Nicaraguan" expat.
    Updated 09-13-2013 at 09:49 AM by Daddy-YO
  9. Jonh's Avatar
    Not sure about the reason, but it's the color of the text.

    The geobabe is one of the famous (in Nicaragua) Nicaraguapa paintings by Efren Medina. Two votes for the vaquero, I can read between the lines...
  10. Daddy-YO's Avatar
    Yes. Thanks. White on white (is that like Blonde on Blonde?) was unreadable until I highlighted the text.

    Nicaraguapa, huh? Do we deserve it? Are we pretty enough?
  11. Mztrjoe's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by bill_bly_ca
    No ambiguity there... I am guessing there was a red and black flag or two on the property before they were tossed I suspect...
    Sir you are psychic.
  12. Daddy-YO's Avatar
    Now that I can, I'm sorry to read about your misfortune, Mztrjoe.

    Where are you located? On the shore of Lake Apanas (since you wrote about it earlier)? Or in Jinotega? Or elsewhere in Nicaragua?

    How did you come to buy your place?

    For years I have rented in Leon. Questions of ownership & title, residues of confiscations after the revolution, have me viewing real estate in Nicaragua as quicksand. It's not evident that meaningful property laws have actually taken root yet among these former communists.
  13. Mztrjoe's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Daddy-YO
    Now that I can, I'm sorry to read about your misfortune, Mztrjoe.

    Where are you located? On the shore of Lake Apanas (since you wrote about it earlier)? Or in Jinotega? Or elsewhere in Nicaragua?

    How did you come to buy your place?

    For years I have rented in Leon. Questions of ownership & title, residues of confiscations after the revolution, have me viewing real estate in Nicaragua as quicksand. It's not evident that meaningful property laws have actually taken root yet among these former communists.

    I am three miles from center of Jinotega and 200 yards (during the rainy season) from lake Apanas. I was tired of renting in town and wanted a place I could have fruit trees and orchids. I knew a man whose property had been in his family from before the war and he was breaking it up and selling lots.
  14. bill_bly_ca's Avatar
    Yep - Sounds like a parcel with a nice view - Prime for the extortion.

    That what makes me shy more and more away from buying and more to renting (8 years from now)

    Even though my Wife was born in Nicaragua and has the 2008 version of Cedula, and if we were to buy under only her name, if you build something nice enough on a piece of land nice enough, it will become the desire of Uncle Sandie and his clan of Merry Men.

    Did the original owner eventually sell all the parcels?
  15. Mztrjoe's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by bill_bly_ca
    Yep - Sounds like a parcel with a nice view - Prime for the extortion.

    That what makes me shy more and more away from buying and more to renting (8 years from now)

    Even though my Wife was born in Nicaragua and has the 2008 version of Cedula, and if we were to buy under only her name, if you build something nice enough on a piece of land nice enough, it will become the desire of Uncle Sandie and his clan of Merry Men.

    Did the original owner eventually sell all the parcels?
    No, He has sold some but not all. It is a nice view though. We are at the end of the water companies line so we do have treated water and 220v service from Disnorte split to two 110v branches at the house. My wife is happy with our house and as long as she is happy.....
  16. MizBrown's Avatar
    Jinotega is the sort of place that things work well and the place is delightful until it's not and a couple of different Gringos more have had problems here, though not official problems (the R&B flag in this case means more than the cops won't push than anything, more like a local bidness man in an Italian neighborhood that anything else). I'm currently in a nice rental that I'd be happy to stay in, but two other expats are leaving or have left.I've been fortunate, but I'd long since gotten country living out of my system by living in rural Virginia and think anyone who wants to live in the countryside here should talk to wealthy Nicaraguans who don't have land for sale about doing that.
  17. Daddy-YO's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Mztrjoe
    I knew a man whose property had been in his family from before the war and he was breaking it up and selling lots.
    Are the thugs that are trying to drive you out, to extort you, related to the man who sold you the place?

    Have you told him about the trouble next door, and that they demand $5000 to "let you stay"? Are they still next door?
  18. Mztrjoe's Avatar
    No the original guys have been moved out. Just a buddy left now. I believe that they are not directly related to the gentleman who sold me the property.
    Three of my neighbors have become proactive in talking to the buddy who is left and there have been some changes for the better. They seemed to become more interested after I had a showing of the property to some people from the states.
  19. Daddy-YO's Avatar
    Sounds good, Mztrjoe. So have you changed your mind? Are you staying in Nicaragua?
  20. Mztrjoe's Avatar
    No.
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