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    This blog (below) was submitted on NL more than a week ago, but it was pulled by their new 'moderator'. She thought I was "testing" her with this opinion, and wrote me, "It comes across as an advertisement for services..." She said that because I wrote in my NL profile that I'm a chemist. Well, it's not - I'm no dopper, nor am I a dope. 'Drugs' of all sorts are commonly part of everyone's life today. Big Pharma rules "health care". Ordinary food is rarely 'unrefined & modified'. But I couldn't read another news item about the lunacy in the US & Mexico that is reshaping the Americas without wanting to inject an opinion. So here's what got banned:

    Thinking about, not on, cocaine
    Cocaine moves in a steady commercial flow from the Andean mountains of South America into Western nostril & lungs as though it were THE REVENGE for the West's elimination of the Incan civilization. A posting on NL titled Nicaragua “On the List” says it's official, Nicaragua is also one of the way stations on the human superhighway that transports it north from the Andes.

    Cocaine is the ideal commercial (dare I say Capitalist?) product. Produced by the ton with peasant farmer labor (read: cheap, unskilled, expendable, easily replaced, ...). What's more people kill each other to work in the business, it's so lucrative. And customers are addicted to the product, if not physically, then certainly psychologically. An ideal product. Laws against its commerce, sale or possession make little or no apparent difference to the business. Nor does a declared 'war' against it, albeit with occasional press to the contrary. Such is the commercial strength of this product.

    It's more valuable than gold, which today fluctuates at $1,310/oz. From the internet, the roughly average street value of cocaine (coke, snow, blow, dope, Bolivian marching powder, &c.) is $100/g. There are 28.35 grams in an ounce. So it's worth more than twice today's inflated price of gold, pound for bloody pound.

    We don't need to reread Adam Smith's "Wealth of Nations" to know what desperate measures men, companies & nations will go to to serve customers what they want, nay demand, especially when a handsome PROFIT is to be had. Just take a historical look at tea & spices, slaves, cotton, opium, heroin, &c. Men risked their lives to sail into the unknown. In the process, they opened new worlds, and slaughtered a few savages who got in the way of 'progress'.

    It's the anonymous & invisible rollers at the top of Western distribution pyramids, not the most-wanted drug lords of Mexico or Columbia, but those they depend upon, who truly profit. DeLorean was stupid to try to handle it himself. Not today's kings of finance and power. I would not be surprised to learn that wealth derived from the drug trade was a significant chunk of the Wall Street kitty that led to wanton gambling on derivatives most knew were phony. Money easily gotten is easily gambled.

    The US Drug War seems to be a sham - though certainly not to the thousands of frontline 'soldiers' and paper-shufflers, for whom it's a job in tough times. Why's it illegal? It's believed to be bad for you, for your brain. People, right or wrong, want to protect their kind, their brothers, sons, &c. It is like the prohibition of alcohol, a law the US overturned, though its prohibition continues in some of the world's great religions, affecting more people than the combined populations of the Americas. Not incidentally, I suspect, industry & military leaders believe it's use will harm workers' & soldiers' ability to do their job.

    True or not, legal or illegal, it's an ideal product in 'open', free-market economies. Mega-Authoritarian, 'closed' societies that keep their peoples in poverty & ignorance can restrict access the longest. Will they also have the most productive workers, and the best soldiers?

    Relatively open societies have no choice but to get smart fast, to remove its (& others') prohibition and control its usage with education (not exaggerations), and medical warnings (like cancer & cigarettes, but real) or direct AMA control (God forbid), and some BIG fucking taxes so our kids' kids won't have to owe the world a living. Just because we're the 'free world' doesn't mean we have to be stupid, does it?
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    I pretty much quit reading at "Big Pharma."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonh View Post
    I pretty much quit reading at "Big Pharma."
    Ya estoy JODIDO. Oh, well, hopefully being boring is not a blogging offence, that I won't be banished from TRN too.

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    NL ? omg Has stooped to pecking Shit for a kernel of corn?

    I thiught the thing interestiong some of it was from a view I don't see on the DAC
    To be called a "Has Been" I must surmise, is much Greater than to be called a "Nevah Been"... JW...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddy-YO View Post
    Ya estoy JODIDO. Oh, well, hopefully being boring is not a blogging offence, that I won't be banished from TRN too.
    I knew you were just jodiendo. That sounds like the kind of topic Fydel would enjoy, maybe he'll un-ban it when he's done baking in the concrete igloo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonh View Post
    I knew you were just jodiendo. That sounds like the kind of topic Fydel would enjoy, maybe he'll un-ban it when he's done baking in the concrete igloo.
    They are busy turning that igloo into an oven to cook Nacatamales made with a vegitarian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonh View Post
    I knew you were just jodiendo. That sounds like the kind of topic Fydel would enjoy . . .
    Not the case Bigh Jonh. I said I was f'd (jodido) cause TRN's main man found it too boring or too poorly expressed to read on. Got banned on NL, and el jefe de TRN turns thumbs down on it . . . NOT a good sign, bro.

    Agreed it's NOT a popular topic, but it's one GRAN JODIENDO PROBLEMA for all of the Americas that the USA happens to be in the best position to actually DO something to rectify. You & I both know it's mostly welfare dollars that support the trade. Between them and our homegrown arms dealers, sanity barely stands a chance.

    Our Jimmy Carter informs me that it got posted on NL anyway under the review of a respectable 2010 UN report

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    "Banned on NL" is one thing, Censored is another, at least in my mind. I know from reading your post Daddy-Yo that you are a stickler for the details, so I wish to offer up my insight into the matter.

    My friend you were Censored, I was Banned (after a good bit of Censoring).
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    Don't take my as an official corporate TRN decision, those would be done by "Admin1."

    The drug war and legalization of recreational drugs tend to be polarizing topics that no one changes their mind about based on internet chat. It's more of a La Chureca topic, so if people want to talk about it, I'll move the thread there.

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    what are you talking about NL i thought that it was fly living
    i don't go their much any more. too many people their that cannot over look a misspelled word to get a point. seems like when someone cannot make a good argument they have to change the subject by pointing out spelling or grammar or some other crap.

    anyway i just come to this sight to read and lately it has been slow. i mostly have been coming hear to find out how mr john is doing.

    i think that the old fart is going to live forever jjajajajaj. just kidding mr john.

    one of my favorite movies is in grumpy old men where the dad says that he eats a pound of bacon a day and smokes a couple packs of smokes a day and he says he thinks that God has just forgot about him.

    this is not word for word but you get the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cookshow View Post
    "Banned on NL" is one thing, Censored is another, at least in my mind.
    My friend you were Censored, I was Banned (after a good bit of Censoring).
    Point taken, gentleman sharecropper. It was what I had posted that got 'banned', not me. I kind of take 'censored' to mean stuff gets deleted but goes through, like the blacking out of info in letters from frontline troops, or digitally blurring bare teats on TV movies. Here my adjective 'f_c_ing' got automatically changed to 'm_c_ing' which I didn't notice at first submission. No biggie.

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    I'd like my 9 year old to be able to read TRN without blushing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonh View Post
    The drug war and legalization of recreational drugs tend to be polarizing topics that no one changes their mind about based on internet chat.
    Hey Jonh, I merely expressed an opinion on the occasion of "the United States Government adding Nicaragua (for the first time) to the list of countries with the highest trafficking of drugs". Just trying to speak easy of something that matters to Nicaragua.

    It makes no difference to me whether my views change someone's mind or not - I got no dog in that race, no how.

    I only saw one drug bust in my life, outside of SJdS, 1.6 tons of bricks of cocaine. It impressed me.

    The UN report named Venezuela as a main mover of coke. It's big money, and that's what maintains or changes governments these days, beyond direct military action.

    I ain't dumping, man. It's just a personal blog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddy-YO View Post
    Point taken, gentleman sharecropper. It was what I had posted that got 'banned', not me. I kind of take 'censored' to mean stuff gets deleted but goes through, like the blacking out of info in letters from frontline troops, or digitally blurring bare teats on TV movies. Here my adjective 'f_c_ing' got automatically changed to 'm_c_ing' which I didn't notice at first submission. No biggie.
    I still laugh when I think of the Great Empire of NL, especially those final days before myself and many others were banished, I did not have the distinction of being the first, always a bridesmaid. Fyldel had the sight on lockdown, full moderation of every post, nothing posted without his approval. Those must have been some long days for old Fyldel. I sometimes wonder if it was all too much for him, maybe that is why he went into the wilds and built concrete Igloos, who knows, maybe he got the idea from reading the China News or some other important publication.

    Funny thing is, had it not been for NL I would likely not be here in Nicaragua. The people I met through the site and later made friends with had a good deal to do with my decision to move here.

    Damn shame. Like I have said many times before, Fyldel let others build the congregation, then he stole the pulpit, he just miscalculated the number of people that wanted to hear him preach.
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    I used to visit his site, when he was still in Costa Rica and writing about his experiences in Nicaragua. At that time I do not recall any posts about communism, socialism and all the shit in between. I think that would have been a good blog I would have continued to visit up till today if it stayed in that direction.

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    Jino-Tony introduced me to NL. Wandering through Jinotega I stopped into his cyber-cafe. In short order we got into a friendly argument, over nothing worth remembering, and I liked the guy immediately.

    As little as I knew their blog persona, it was sad seeing the original NL crew fade from life. I didn't mind fyl's communist views so much as I hated seeing him dump on the USA, his friggin' birthhome. Around the time the shite hit NL resulting in schism & the creation of easy-does-it TRN, I thought those were some of the best posts ever on NL, truly visceral opinions. The name-calling didn't really bother me - it's just the sign of a spent mind, unable to make a decent counterpoint - I'd just spin past those posts to one's that really had something worthwhile reading.

    Fyl's withdrawal to the mountaintop is only half the story going down on NL, IMO. It's the seemingly total Canadian takeover, focused on promoting real estate & tourism in Nicaragua and saying only nice things about Daniel (not so different from fyl), that has rendered the site often monumentally boring.

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    The thing Fyl never seemed to get was that if he wanted, as he stated clearly, a website purely of information about Nicaragua without BS conversations all over the place, he should have used a free open-source wiki software, where anyone can submit articles that are censo- oops; approved by the Webmaster. WikiNica.com, it could have been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddy-YO View Post
    . . . it got posted on NL anyway under the review of a respectable 2010 UN report
    NL's new moderator wrote,
    to Morales, who'd copied & posted on NL (above) what I'd posted here,
    "This site (NL) already had a reputation for pedophiles and we're not switching from that to drugs. It had legal issues - Phil was forced to remove some posts. On it's own, Daddy-YO's post looked like An Ode to Cocaine. Added below the other post, it just doesn't have the same impact - nobody really notices - it doesn't attract attention to itself. I hope you get the difference . . ."

    to me,
    "My point is really to be more discreet. Considering the previous legal problems, we're not taking risks here."

    . . . previous legal problems? So, it was the indiscreet manor in which I presented my argument for the legalization & control of this natural product that makes what I wrote . . . illegal? OK.

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    Maybe the legal problems were with that guy "discreetly" pimping hookers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonh View Post
    Forums are made up of characters, not of data.
    I really miss MA!
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    Me too!

    He was the best!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mupitara View Post
    I really miss MA!
    ditto
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    Before you guys go all weepy, here's a treat from the not-so-distant past:

    monoCongo Is Wrong
    Submitted by Miskito Alan on Tue, 2006/05/30 - 15:34.
    Farmer John Wayne only eats females. :-) Miskito Alan ®

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    Thanks Daddy-YO. I enjoyed that treat!


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    MR.M.A. was allot of fun to talk to. he would knock on me because of where i was from. i think that we are from the same state. miss talking to him.

    fly on the other hand you do have to give it to him he went by the saying if you don't love the U.S. leave it and he did.
    however i don't really car for his bashing of the U.S.
    i also don't care for his long post that seem way over my head maybe i don't understand or maybe i just see that it is from him and i don't try to understand.
    glad that he is having internet problems

    i do like coming hear. Mr john is a good person to talk to and allot of other hear are equally good as well. i like this place allot better and it seems to be more user friendly hear. if this is a good way to say it.

    on nl it only takes a moment to get in to a pissing match. but it is kinda entertaining
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