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    Well....Being a cautious kind of person, I decided to take baby steps in beginning construction on Little Corn. The property has been fenced, cleared, planted and the well is dug. The next step (pun intended) is to build steps from the beach front to the actual beach... a drop of about 20 feet.

    The conceptual plans were put together by one of our members and are shown below:






    The construction is concrete and wood. Concrete for the top, middle and bottom platforms and for the four pillars.

    All else is Nispero wood from PC. All the wood is brought in via sail boat directly from PC to my beach. This avoids a lot of shipping and handling costs as well as the usual bribes. This way we do not have to unload at the pier and then figure out how to get the material across the island.

    The wood is a very dense hardwood that has been known to last centuries and is impervious to saltwater spray.

    I was worried about getting a permit to build on the beach, but got permission with no issues or complaints or fees!

    The project is moving along faster than expected with the wood arriving next week. Below are some snapshots of recent progress.
















    Will post more as progress continues.
    Life's different here ... It's a whole 'nother pace.

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    Congratulations on getting started...I think you could make a business of designing staircases as there is a serious need in this country..

    i had checked awhile ago when we were building and determined that the max height of a step should be 20cm
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    7" riser and 11" tread.

    how deep do the concrete posts go?

    looks like you'll be sipping FDC on the porch before you know it! I can't wait to come see it.

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    Way ta Go LCT....

    Glad ya got started at last, I know you been a dreaming about it...

    I like ya bringing the materials in right on the beach.... Jonh did a fie job of laying it out and I did notice the supports for the cement were a combo of US and Nicalandia forms....

    Congrats..
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    Impressive!

    What are you paying for the wood?

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    $USD 1.60 / Board Foot .......Delivered to site.
    Life's different here ... It's a whole 'nother pace.

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    ...by sailboat. Tom is so green!

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    Yeah...... it makes up for using the eco-bad concrete
    Life's different here ... It's a whole 'nother pace.

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    Actually the greenies like concrete.

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    Cold Grey Building ....

    Where a Hill Should Be...

    Steel and Concrete closing Down on Me.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonh View Post
    Actually the greenies like concrete.
    Huh? I thought that making cement consumed vast amounts of energy?

    Besides, greenies don't like anything.
    Life's different here ... It's a whole 'nother pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Corn Tom View Post
    $USD 1.60 / Board Foot .......Delivered to site.
    It will be nice when the canal is up and runnning. I'll be able to get the wood on the other side.

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    ``Besides, greenies don't like anything.``
    I`ve found american greenies like taxes and regulation and taking other people`s property.

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    I think they like concrete because it's recyclable. You also get points if there's a concrete plant close by, so less fuel is used for transporting it. It's all BS though, many LEED Certified buildings use more energy than "normal" buildings. It just makes the tax 'n spend big government power-mad types feel good about themselves.

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    Where did the sand used in the concrete come from?

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    From the mainland.

    Seems silly but rules are rules.
    Life's different here ... It's a whole 'nother pace.

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    That's good just was concerned about sea sand being used with high salt content. Doesn't make good concrete.
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    From the mainland.

    Seems silly but rules are rules.

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    Salt and organic material, both are ill suited to concrete making. I guess you can treat it, but for the effort you might as well get fine, clean builders sand from elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradley40550 View Post
    That's good just was concerned about sea sand being used with high salt content. Doesn't make good concrete.
    They throw Calcium Chloride (a type of salt) into concrete up here to help it cure on particularly cold days - But not when re-bar is in the cast as CaCl2 is worse than salt on metal
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    Quote Originally Posted by bill_bly_ca View Post
    They throw Calcium Chloride (a type of salt) into concrete up here to help it cure on particularly cold days - But not when re-bar is in the cast as CaCl2 is worse than salt on metal

    I experimented with beach sand when I built my place in Baja. What I saw was spalling on the surface, even when the correct amount of cement was used. Like the salt helped form a scum or frosting on the surface.

    Initially I thought that it was my people stealing cement. A common scam was to short the mix a shovel, and at the end of the day you'd have a bag or two to take home. You see a lot of this type of concrete in Nicaragua, also they typically use way too much water. This "soup" also contributes to a soft surface.

    Which reminds me, I was going to get a vibrator to settle the concrete. I'm planning a lot of slab area this year.
    I've not seen those used here either, although they must use them on the big commercial projects.

    http://www.harborfreight.com/concret...tor-42947.html

    Thanks for reminding me. I should have bought the thing last week when I had a 25% off coupon

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyWestPirate View Post
    Which reminds me, I was going to get a vibrator to settle the concrete. I'm planning a lot of slab area this year.
    I've not seen those used here either, although they must use them on the big commercial projects.

    http://www.harborfreight.com/concret...tor-42947.html

    Thanks for reminding me. I should have bought the thing last week when I had a 25% off coupon

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    Something I learned watching Pawn Stars, in ancient times they would nick small bits off the edges of silver coins, and I guess they'd save up the nickings till they had enough to melt into an ingot of their own, to do with whatever one did with silver ingots. So authentic ancient coins typically look like cookies nibbled around the edges. Fake ones look pristine.

    Makes me re-think the use of actual precious metals in idealistic coinage, in the idealistic return to a gold standard. Paper money does seem to serve a legitimate use. Backing it with real silver or gold is a whole 'nother question.

    What was the thread topic again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonh View Post

    What was the thread topic again?
    It was how a little blue pill, some wood, and a vibrator can make a stairway "in" heaven...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bill_bly_ca View Post
    It was how a little blue pill, some wood, and a vibrator can make a stairway "in" heaven...
    Ya know...that would be funny if it was someone else's thread!
    Life's different here ... It's a whole 'nother pace.

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    Then get it back on track LCT, we are ALL waiting pic's and comments ya Slacker....
    To be called a "Has Been" I must surmise, is much Greater than to be called a "Nevah Been"... JW...



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