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    Default Re: The Plot thickens, or the plot thins

    So BIL got the clean up crew hired and on the job - Plot leveled, Left over stones moved, Barb wire placed.

    Now the 6" of fill is needed - We have a quote of just over $100 for the 6inches by 35 foot by 80ish foot.

    Wire the money tomorrow.

    Buddies who built the wall wanted too much for the entire job - Surprize surprize eh..

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    Property tax was paid yesterday - C$575 from Oct 2014 to June 30 2019


    The surveyors showed up - We did not need to pick them up like we were told - But they did just show up before lunch - Imagine that.

    We will find out the cost for the permit (for the compound) within the next week, or month, or 3 months - I guess.
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    So now on to the house...

    Funny interpretation of events ... So I had thought I had heard "No need to submit plans for the fence - Just pay the fine" (C$500 to C$1000)

    So I thought - OK now I need to hunker down and make the plans for the house with all official drawings and such - Going over the next steps with Chilo I got the following clarification..

    " No need to submit plans for the House - Just build it and pay the fine when the house is done"

    Well this is puzzling - but as she explained her conversation with the fellow behind the counter it makes no sence to do all of the planning bits as it is 10's of thousands of dollars and in the end things are not built to plans - So just build it and pay the fine when it is done.

    She did mention that others have mentioned that if there are city employees who can get snotty and make you take it down, but you really have to try to piss them off.

    So now off I go to do our 2 story 24 x 30ish foot covered end of the compound and we will see what time brings.
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    Default Re: The Plot thickens, or the plot thins

    Think of it as a tax, not a fine, and it’ll make more sense. It’s only semantics.

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    We just paid our city tax. It was about usd 5.00, for which we surely get usd 0.13 in services.

    Trashman didn't come Sunday. It now seems there is more trash piling up than there are people in the neighborhood. Pampers really really suck, the dogs chew into them looking for precious pearls and then scatter them all over the street. City said their truck broke down. So send another one, right? In the middle of the night the little woman wakes up and tells me I should hang our trash from a tree. I usually do, but the trash guy doesn't do slip knots so I have to donate a new piece of string every week.
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    I don't know about house building now, it has probably changed in the last 10 years. 1 good thing now is it appears they are placing electric meters during construction. Before you had to finish the house before the fire dept would sign off on the meter.

    If your curbs are not in, be very careful how to place your house as the new road may be higher or lower than the existing one. Probably higher as they cheap out their work by building the curbs and road on top of existing grade.

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    I have a video (i'll see if I can save it to google drive and link here) showing how our 18" lift from center road grade really helped in the last down pours..
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    I have a video (i'll see if I can save it to google drive and link here) showing how our 18" lift from center road grade really helped in the last down pours..
    For the price of fill I don't see why everyone is not up a foot or two. Even on my slope I have drainage everywhere.
    For the most part I use 4" tubo and drill my own holes. Tubo with holes is probably available in MGA,, but not in the north

    This goes into a French drain filled with the local piedrin. I've seen grave ( 3/4 ) too, it would work better,, but again, not here. Some 12 " heavy tar paper would be nice to keep the tubo from filling with roots, but I've never seen that here

    It works well but only if I supervise the trench digging to get a proper gradient. This idea of a necessary slope for drainage is beyond the local ken

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    Default Re: The Plot thickens, or the plot thins

    About 0m:40s is looking into our compound..

    You can see what my BIL has to deal with on his front porch (the first 30 seconds)

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    I put in 4 inch pipe to drain but later on the lower part of the lot I discovered 6 inch pipe and that is much better. (2) 6 inch pipes works on all but the worst rains. I would love to tear out the 4 inch and replace it, but it would involve cutting too much concrete.

    Much of our problem stems from Sandismo, the developer never put in the drains for the lotification and Marena won't touch him because he is connected. Kinda reminds you of the scenes in the Godfather where somebody became a Made Man. A group of home owners went to a lawyer recently who provided us with some information but said it would not be rentable for her to take a case against a gran cacique sandinsta. Our lawyer is supposed to be a vandalica, so my wife doesn't want to go to her because she would not have fair access to the courts. Same deal on getting our road graded. A major owner in the area is a vandalico so we get no city services to spite him. A couple years ago he sprung for road maintenance but he is not doing it every year. I have gone to sjds and wilwili this year and the worst roads I faced were in the 3 blocks getting out of my neighborhood!

    We also added a custom metal gutter on the front of the house with a 4 inch pipe to the street. We need another one on the rear of the house but it will be harder to plumb it to the street.

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    Default Re: The Plot thickens, or the plot thins

    Interesting twist...

    So Chilo has known Dona Coco for over 30 yrs. She and Don Alfonso arrived about the same time as Edwardo (Now back in Canada for a short stint to get his CPP and other things in order) in the early 80's . Dona Coco was very close to MIL Dona Rosa and was a fixture in our place for most of the 90's and early 00's for visits.

    Don Alfonso passed away last year on their last return to Niclandia. Dona Coco came back for the winter as all her children, grand children and GG children are up here. But she had made arrangements for a return trip this year, open ticket, purchasing a matching ticket for a lady who said she can help get through the grind of flying there and back.
    Well that lady has now reneged.

    Dona Coco contacted Chilo to see if she if she wanted to fill the roll of helper for the flight there and back (no other ties for the approx 1.5 month stay) So far it looks like a go - Will try to set it for Oct/ Nov so I can tag along for the last 10 days to clean up the build.

    So now pitter patter, lets get at 'er for the actual house layout (29' x 24')
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    Your residencia has really filled up. Why not sell and start over with better drainage.

    A lot on that bench overlooking the Estelí lights on the road to Jinotega??

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    A lot of work to sell and move, and if I move again it will be to somewhere nice. Not ready to go back to the US to die, not ready to change one pueblo bajo for another.

    Our neighborhood has not filled up, given it has been here for 10 years. Many of the houses you see are not occupied, several have never been occupied. It is the same phenomena you see in the US--people want to get out of the filth and squalor of downtown only to see the boredom of suburbia, plus mud and zancudos.

    Neighbor with the "flying bandits" house says he is not going to return to Nic from the US so he is selling, another neighbor is looking at a house in Managua for half the price of what they paid in Esteli, another complaining about infiltration into their house from the charco.

    Latest plan is for each neighbor who is willing to chip in 1000 cords to fill the potholes with balastre. During the rainy season the rocks will get pushed into the mud to give a more uniform surface. Best quick fix, but if you do this enough the road just gets higher and higher and the properties get farther in the hole. There is no substitute for good urban planning and competent local government. Esteli is a case study of working today to create a worse tomorrow. Onward to more victories.

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    Interesting twist - BIL Daniel was calling around for a crew to chop up the growth on the plot. As he was calling here and there he actually made contact with the fellow who cleans to open plot between our plot and BIL's plot.


    Apparently it is a lady in her 40's who has not been back (in the US) for over 20 years - She is looking to sell - The plot was bought by her sight unseen 7 or 8 yrs ago.

    The price that "Buddy" mentioned was 50% over what we paid for our plot 5 yrs ago. Chilo and BIL believe buddy is looking to skim $2K off the top of the real price.

    Our offer goes out today at less, firm, and instant cash. Not sure if buddy will pass it back as he is reluctant to give the lady's phone number - a sure sign that he is looking to skim.

    But a 80x70 foot lot would be soooo much more nicer as we could clearly segregate our personal space and space used for other means.

    We will see.....
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    What goes around comes around. We are now hearing of 2 people we know who have been working wet in the states for decades. They have been waiting patiently for some US president to hand them citizenship so they can come back to Nic! Ahh, the American Dream, make money in the US to take it all to your own country!
    But they are getting old and want to retire and are talking about returning.

    The second farm behind us has changed hands, local big money. They are going to convert it from relatively benign cattle to tobacco. We spent over a week listening to a grader and dump trucks as they leveled the lot. they are ripraping the river bank, which will be good because MTI will never spend the bucks to do it. Unfortunately, their farm is not where the river jumps its banks in a wet year. Rumor is they are trying to buy the farm directly behind us which would give them control of the critical part of the river. It might help to have them straighten up the river situation, but at the cost of having obnoxious irrigated agriculture right up to our property line.
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    Default Re: The Plot thickens, or the plot thins

    Quote Originally Posted by el duende grande View Post
    but at the cost of having obnoxious irrigated agriculture right up to our property line.

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    You get the idea...
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    Are you talking about the sound of overhead irrigation?
    The guinnea grass farm does that already! Tobacco uses flood irrigation, but sprays like crazy and periodically has large crews of laborers. They plow the fields causing a dust problem down wind. A lot of the air quality problems are from tobacco, as the fields are east and north of town so the prevailing dry season winds go into town. I used to joke about the Esteli women who swept the floors 5 times a day. They are not too far off! We now have AC in the bedroom, windows closed, and an air filter we found NIB at a paca. Nicer and my wife's allergies, etc., have been minimized.

    I'm not sure what crop has drunks running around at night howling at the moon...

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    Default Re: The Plot thickens, or the plot thins

    Quote Originally Posted by el duende grande View Post
    Are you talking about the sound of overhead irrigation?
    Yes - Up in Tobacco country here they use spray irrigation.

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    Wrong place.. Post moved..
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