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    Default Re: The Plot thickens, or the plot thins

    Here are two vids - Post #1 with one

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    Default Re: The Plot thickens, or the plot thins

    And post #2 with the second..

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    So we start week 4 Monday

    It is probably another $500US on steel and cement to finish the non square 24 x 27 main footing. (One end is 25') with a center room of 14 1/2 by 13 and a bit - The internal room dimentions grew a smidge such that they could line up with a close buy column.

    Labout for week 1 to end week 3 is 19,000 cord This is for the the contractor and hils helper - Boxing the room and completing the footing on the remaining "L" of the structure is 62K

    I see another 600 to 700 in blocks being needed to complete the room.

    Once the footing is complete it makes instruction of next points of build easier. The next bit is to make sure they get the window placement right which we will work on Monday.
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    So all the footings are dug, a little less than 1/2 of the columns are planted in 2 'of C'ment. But more importantly Jimmy has the "flow" inderstood. Jimmy is so so happy to be working after over 3 months pounding the streets for odd jobs, there are none ...

    They have enough steel, cement and forms to hold them for the next week and a half, maybe 2 - The Labor quote is the footings (27 x 24 lopsided rectangle) and an inner footing for a room - The room actualy grew to 13 1/2 by 14 and a bit when it became apparent vertical columns were inches away from the original 12x113 room size.

    Once I get the pictures (and videos) unpacked next week I will pop them here ....

    As well we slapped up a tin covered shed in the corner of Daniel's lot to hold the shipping boxes when the firicking fracking fudgin things get released. Daniels former SIL was expecting a box as well before she went back. She left Tuesday so it will be up to her Mother to pick it up - Daniel's former inlaws are masters of gaiming the system. Nothing criminal (violent or larcony) but general gaming of the system.
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    So from the other plot up north I have this mish mash of clips

    Manitoulin

    The babbling of how to get to the plot has changed with a run straight west rather than the south west path I walked in the clip
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    The first of 5 block walls between columns started today - Forgot to ask BIL to snap a picture after he showed it to us by Video. The 5 AC boxes we are dropping .One between each pair of columns is costing us C$1000 extra - Well actually the Metal Black And Decker circular saw in trade..

    So far on track to have it ready for a roof around this time 2020.
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    Our wall - We paid for it...
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    I got dizzy watching your Mandalorian video.

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    So the room is on to stage 2 - The full on view of the L shaped wall is at the same level as the garage arches (Both fore and aft)

    The image with the small step of a wall will be the kitchen - the end of the short wall will be where the bumper of the truck or car will set.

    Next steps will be to raise the fence to the same level as the garage door arch and the other L of the room - This will mostelikely start early to Mid Febuary.
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    On the up north bit we are working on the land access route to get the certificate of conformity , which is an equivalent to building permit for that area.

    Desire for 2020 is to maybe stake out where the sonotube will go for the 2 structures. Then pour the supports in 2021

    The blue line you see is our proposed road on public land. The old cabin on public land is adjacent to the 71.5m marker.
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    We got hit up for our first bribe - Surprised it took this long - We are told $300 to "Fix" the building permit.
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    Once it begins it may never end. I would negotiate the price down, put the savings away for the next 1.
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    Yes - BIL wanted me to get involved . I said clearly that he and Chilo negotiate both the price and the end and Never even never speak of el Chele (Yo!) as that will never let it end.

    If she plays the poor returning Nica card there is a better chance of eventual conclusion..
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    Re: budget - We were told $2500 for all the drawings - permits and approvals and a SWAG at $1200 for bribes - Time will tell if we made a wise choice.

    Even with the permits you do not remove the spectre of bribes which factored in on the decision.
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    OK - So an expansion.

    The gist is this - We get drawings whipped up by a local architect ( I think he is a fellow who has a CAD program really ) - The gang of 4 take the $300 and enter the drawing in the system for Masaya building permit and Bob is our Uncle.

    We will see what happens
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    Quote Originally Posted by bill_bly_ca View Post
    OK - So an expansion.

    The gist is this - We get drawings whipped up by a local architect ( I think he is a fellow who has a CAD program really ) - The gang of 4 take the $300 and enter the drawing in the system for Masaya building permit and Bob is our Uncle.

    We will see what happens

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    So the drawing was completed yesterday I was told - Have not seen it yet.

    If you believe the story - Drawings made - Buddies from Alcadia take the drawings and 3 benjamins and enter it into the system - Building permit created and we have no further "Imperial entanglements"

    Sounds appealing but I don't really believe it for a min.

    Hope to see the drawing by the weekend.
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    Yeah, just turn in "a drawing" and three Benjamins and you get a permit? Sounds more like an Architecture Tax than a Permit. Where's the Kafkaesque netherworld of the building and inspection bureaucracy?

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    Still a lot cheaper than trying to get a building permit in the US,, at least in the western states.
    They run thousands of dollars,, AND THEN you still have to deal with the building inspector .
    You pay your dues in Nicaragua and you can build it as shoddy as you please And don't have to worry about the spotted green horny toad habitat.

    I just paid a parking ticket,, ticket was cheap enough but they tack on surcharges for everything from victims' rights, to save the whales. So,, a $15 ticket becomes $76 dollars.

    Give me Nicaragua any day. Pay the man and get on with life.

    What's the difference between being held up by Transito and the Tucson Parking Authority ?

    Transito is a lot cheaper.

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    Default Re: The Plot thickens, or the plot thins

    I’ve said many times, the US institutionalized bribery by requiring licenses, permits, taxes, surcharges, and fees.

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    Yes and No - Are they a bit excessive - Sure, but many of them are from society's and insurance company's adversity to risk.

    These laws did not appear magically from nothing, it typically happened because something happened and the answer should have been "suck it up buttercup" but actually became "there should be a law"

    Like I am happy that a 15 room flop house can not be open legally beside me, and would be shut down quite quickly if it does start out.

    The house across from us (Joe and Barbra lived in there from 1972 to 2017) and was renovated to 3 apartments. Egress windows for the basement, gas fireplaces for local heat all the correct distance from windows that open, Correct electrical services blah blah blah. It cost the new owners a lot, a year of build and inspection, but it all seems logical in the end. It only seems to bite people up here when they try to go on the cheap.

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    One thing that always did perplex me about US zoning is how rentals are segregated from Suburbia - Now up here in the hoddie toddie areas sure there are no six or 3 plexes dotted about. But in your regular working joe neighbourhoods (700K and below) there is a smattering of rental structures in betwixt. A nice way to let renters see that house ownership is attainable when they are living amongst single family detached housing.

    Our first place was a 6 plex just about 2km from the center of town and surrounded by bungalows on all 3 sides and it seemed like a good plan. Chilo and I always joked how we would buy the place upon retirement once we had made it big and move back into our first apartment.
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    “...your regular working joe neighbourhoods (700K and below)...”. That’s Cordobas, right?

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    It is gobsmackingly silly

    A "Family" home in the KW area is now 600K without batting an eye - That is your 1990's onward 1800sq foot, attached garage as a feature, 30x100' lot, house.


    Case in point - Our neighbours of 27 years put their house up Monday You can see my towers in the background .

    The 980 sq foot is first floor - They do not count the basement up here even though theirs is finished - The road has been clogged to high heaven as people have filed in and out - I bet it will go for closer to 490K .

    The only saving grace up here is that you have to have 20% down now to get a mortgage so even though the market is (in my opinion) overpriced - it appears to be backstopped sufficiently. But corrections happen hard, fast and without mercy.
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    I can’t even imagine. But it’s like the big cities here, Joe Sixpack can’t afford to live there. Meanwhile in my ‘hood a 1950s house at $160k takes forever to sell.

    I also cannot imagine saving up $100,000 for a down payment. Y’all must pull in some damn good money up there. Save a little longer and you can buy a house here for cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonh View Post
    I also cannot imagine saving up $100,000 for a down payment.
    Jordanian fellow I have worked with for 20 years just did so last year, but as he is Muslim and is not allowed to pay interest, he dropped the entire $550K in cash. Took him and his wife 20 yrs but the did it.

    Back when we bought ours at the trough of the 90's downturn (1995) we had 10% down, which was actually 4% after fees. One of them is "CMHC" which is a lot like what your FannyMae and FannyMack thingies were. If you had less than 25% down you had to buy the CMHC or the bank would not touch you with a 10'pole.

    When I tell kids at work how our first Mortgage was 9.75% when the typical at the time was 14% they are gob smacked.. They are planning to carry 400K at 3% or less for decades. I fear for that mind set.

    In April of 1996 (Our one year anniversary of the 116K mortgage) I showed Chilo the statement of how we had paid off something like $1600 of the balance - She cried and cried wondering how it would ever be paid off. But eventually it was.
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