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    Many revolutions since the French of 1789 have copied their use of barricades to stymie the government from continuing its business. Here’s a map of tranques in Nicaragua:
    https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...8023176266&z=9

    Along the lines of having a little sympathy for the devil, I can understand Ortega's frustrations with tranques paralyzing 'his' country, to the point of sending his armed thugs out to break 'em up. But then more get built. It's a message he can't ignore long. At a council meeting late last night in Leon, it was decided to let peaceful demonstrators man the tranques and that the police will remain in their barracks and that city equipment (vehicles used by JS turbas?) be returned.


    ‘Liberty, fraternity, equality’ What has provoked more revolutions are infringements on freedoms of speech, worship, peaceful assembly, representative government and more ‘rights of man’. (‘Human rights’ have greatly expanded in the last couple centuries.) Another term for fraternity might be thought to be solidarity today, except it has been used to divide rather than unite the people of Nicaragua. Equality - in the eyes of the law, ruled & rulers - has been flipped by considerations of economic inequality, yet the latter has been the driving force behind so-called socialist revolutions. In latin american neo-Marxist terms their intent was to correct the entrenched patron-peon class system. But with little or no luck, for all LAm revolutions seemed to have ended worse than how they started with dictatorships over hopelessly poor populations.
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    Nicaragua's real tranque
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    Among the 5 people killed yesterday during the nationwide strike was a 15 year old kid from our neighborhood in Leon. He was shot in the chest while manning a tranque. Meanwhile a baby girl was born at a tranque in Jinotepe. Life in Nicaragua.
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    León atrincherado (fortified) contra el régimen Ortega-Murillo


    Students on a tranque in Leon, from Confidencial

    Más de cien barricadas
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    In a few days I'm scheduled to fly into MGA. The operative word is 'scheduled' - it's the return leg of a round trip ticket with American. I don't know yet how I'll travel from MGA to Leon. I travel alone. My usual shuttle service is "Fuera de servicio , . . . Hasta nuevo aviso" dated April 22. Here's how one navigated the world of tranques:
    Here is one example of the current (7/7) situation on inter-city travel. A Nicaraguan woman in Esteli who is a close friend has a ticket to fly to the USA this Friday morning so she started at 5 a.m. today (Thursday). Knowing Esteli, she could get around any problems there, but at La Trinidad (about twenty miles south of Esteli) there was a roadblock and she had to start walking (she had two male family members to help carry her luggage and to feel more secure). On the other side of the roadblock, there was a line of taxis and they took one of those to the next roadblock at Sebaco (the main junction of almost all the roads to the north-central highlands cities like Esteli, Matagalpa, Jinotega, etc.), again they had to walk to be allowed through the roadblock manned by masked persons with a lot of firearms. I think that they said that they got a little van or bus there for the trip down to the roadblock mentioned above at Las Maderas. It might be at this roadblock that she related that they had to walk about a kilometer to get to another taxi. They arrived at the Best Western-Hotel Las Mercedes directly across from the Managua airport at about noon. So, roughly seven hours to get about one hundred miles. I did not hear what they paid in total for taxis, etc. but a few days ago someone said around 1,200 cordabas or US$40 as a price for such a trip, but I am sure that varies by how many in a group, etc. and there may be a gringo surcharge.
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    American took a week off from it's Miami-Managua run, so check with them. They were scheduling on other lines for existing tickets.
    We know somebody who went esteli-managua last week by taxi/back roads and it took him 8 hours each way on what is usually a 2.5 hour trip.
    Good luck. Call your usual driver the day before to see how it looks.

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    Some slick time travel, July 7, 2018!

    Esteli is about 2 1/2 hours from Managua, normally, so 7 hours about triples it.

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    Is there any word that the Tranques are being dismantled?

    That was part of the truce,, no?

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    What truce?

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    No truce?

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    Ortega rejected plan to move elections to march 2019. People pissed about family that was burned to death, surviving daughter had choice comments about Ortega. No truce, that's why there is a daily body count. During the paro on thursday police hunted some people down, its a daily thing. Yesterday semis were lined up from the south entrance to shell esquipulas, I don't know if they ever left town.

    People keep building roadblocks, police are planning to tear them down.
    Don't plan on the boys being home by Christmas.


    truce?
    http://100noticias.com.ni/matan-a-2-...-uno-de-ellos/
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    A rather well-written account of crossing 20-25 tranques motorcycling border to border:
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/my-nic...h-a-revolution
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddy-YO View Post
    A rather well-written account of crossing 20-25 tranques motorcycling border to border:
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/my-nic...h-a-revolution
    He got lucky, and from the way that he writes this article, he knows it.

    I side with the Nicaraguan people against their dictatorial 'president'. I believe that most of those trying to oust Ortega are sincere in their desire to create a better country and secure greater freedoms. That being said, desperation can drive people to do terrible things to other people. Under pressure (high stress) people tend to fall back on tribalism. It is unwise to stand out in a crowd (if you can help it) under this kind of pressure. This understanding is a large part of why I decided to leave Nicaragua when I did.

    I was moved by the humanity and compassion displayed by those who helped this crazy chele navigate the barricades. These are the Nicaragua people that I have grown to love.
    Soy el chele mono.

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    Ok,, my tranque runner friends finally left Estelì at 4am this morning for Managua.
    They were supposed to leave at 3, but by the time they had everyone loaded it was 4. Two 15 passenger vans, a.c., 500 cords.
    They headed to Jinotega and at 6am when I checked in were south of Sebaco.
    Descriptions of Jinotega were scary, lots of barricades, lots of men in masks. Estelì has been blessed by the relative calm. It was a real wakeup for my foreman.
    We have had little problem in our neck of the woods. My canefield was burned, one bus had several of it's Windows broken out.

    These acts were more guaro than political consciousness.

    So, the vans return to Estelì this afternoon at 4pm,, if anyone needs a ride

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    Tranque Runners made it to Managua Immigration by 8AM.
    Really, I doubt that I could have made it much faster on a regular day from Esteli to MGA.

    I have left really early and made good time,,, but then it's sit around time until the offices open for business.

    The real problem is always the smoking,, under powered and overloaded trucks crawling up the slightest incline,, the distance is not far.
    A four lane Pan Am would make a huge difference.

    I'll have to try that Jinotega detour the next time I make the trip.



    "L" says,, about 1000 Nicas milling around at Migracion,,, but only 10 expats in the foreign section.
    Jayro said a line four blocks long outside of the building, and the inside packed.
    I've been in that building,, it's big with a high roof, but Jesus does it get hot and sweltering in the afternoon.
    It's always crowded, but I can imagine what it's like today.


    So,, "L" lucks out for once,,, line-wise,, she's already been seen,
    ---but like a bad French movie that just won't end (we may be talking about the whole country here),
    the systems are down,, no way to make her new cedula!!

    "Hoy, Manaña, o Lunes" say the helpful Sandis.


    She didn't mention a tranque around Tipitapa either,, maybe it's all been cleaned out.

    Jayro is heading back on the 4PM shuttle. Hopefully, with my solar controllers. I had a $1K worth of product shipped from Taiwan directly to Optima in Miami,, it all arrived right around April 18.
    They misplaced it. It has DHL markings, my phone number on it.

    I purchased something locally for twice the price,, that worked. It's about 30% less efficient in harvesting energy than the Taiwanese product.
    What happens is,,, any controller works OK in bright sunshine. It's the early morning and late afternoon when you need a good controller.
    There is always some energy available, but with the panel voltage less than the battery voltage,, nothing happens. A smart controller amplifies the voltage to a point above the battery voltage, allowing the battery to be charged.

    There is no free lunch of course,,, but it's better than nothing. With enough panels,, it's a significant contribution when you need it most.

    Optima has worked out well for me in the past,, they seemed to have some connection with Nica customs that allows their stuff to ease through.
    "L" has used them in the past as well,, with good results.

    The last shipment was one of those large totes,, a wide variety of stuff.
    They accepted my customs declaration and didn't open it. It arrived just as I packed it.

    Luckily,, this last shipment is not something that has great utility to the average Aduanero,, like a big flat screen,, but if it's not there, the next place to look for it will be the Mercado Oriental.


    Stay tuned for the next chapter in the saga.
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    OK,, system supposedly up,, people are moving to the caja and paying.

    Jayro ran outside and got copies for "L" so she could stay in line,, and found a notary.
    They have a ton of guys standing around, offering to help you through the process.
    Just like at the border.

    A couple of lawyers in small stalls for the heavy lifting.


    Optima found my boxes!!
    I think it was more getting their attention to look for them.

    Optima's price is $2.50 a pound with a $25 minimum.
    This includes customs duties unless it's electronics,, high value,
    They are claiming that my two boxes came to Nicaragua in two separate containers,,, hence,, two minimums.

    But,, I'm getting the last laugh out of this . . ..
    $100 with the customs duties.

    They charge $35 to haul it Estelí,, flat charge,, cheaper than running to Managua for it.
    So I will probably just cover Jayro's expenses there and back,, and lunch.


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    3 hours is great time, considering!

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    Final tranques update:

    Jayro somehow missed the van back,, spent the night in MGA and caught a bus the following morning. It's possible that the van found sufficient passengers and just left early. He claims that he was where he was supposed to be, on time, for the pick up

    Jayro ran into one tranque at La Trinidad that stopped the bus, but he was able to pass on foot with his cargo. He walked 4km (possibly because he was too cheap to take a taxi), and found another bus to Estelí.

    Four hours later Jayro was on the farm and I received photos of the contents of my boxes, ,, everything was in order. With the shipping it was a $1K purchase , so it was a relief that both Jayro and the packages made it through unscathed.

    Today is father's day in Nicaragua.

    Saludos a Los Padres que no sobrevivieron la crisis, y a Los Padres que perdieron sus hijos. No sé cuál es peor, padre sin hijo, o hijo sin su padre.

    https://www.laprensa.com.ni/2018/06/...rio-de-managua

    Viva Nicaragua!
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    Tranques opened sometime Thursday on this side, closed yesterday. Lot got through, see how long it last.
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    Story is that when Cardinal Obando y Bravo died and ascended to heaven he had to wait awhile for a tranque in the sky...

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    Quote Originally Posted by el duende grande View Post
    Story is that when Cardinal Obando y Bravo died and ascended to heaven he had to wait awhile for a tranque in the sky...
    Love it!
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    This is Leon, jodido. The historic city is a "labyrinth of tranques" says today's La Prensa. Few taxis run. My wife may be losing weight, since she refuses to ride a 'triciclo' - the pedaled ricksha. Triciclo drivers have removed adoquin blocks from the sidewalks to pass. Of course they're charging double+, which is to say, 'making hay while the sun shines', or simply, in Nica, se aprovechan.

    Apparently the highway (the 'by-pass') is clear. Yasaki (was Arnicon) got all the raw material they needed to continue making automobile wiring harnesses. Workers were doing half time for a few days around the general strike, but production never stopped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddy-YO View Post

    This is Leon, jodido. The historic city is a "labyrinth of tranques" says today's La Prensa. Few taxis run. My wife may be losing weight, since she refuses to ride a 'triciclo' - the pedaled ricksha. Triciclo drivers have removed adoquin blocks from the sidewalks to pass. Of course they're charging double+, which is to say, 'making hay while the sun shines', or simply, in Nica, se aprovechan.

    Apparently the highway (the 'by-pass') is clear. Yasaki (was Arnicon) got all the raw material they needed to continue making automobile wiring harnesses. Workers were doing half time for a few days around the general strike, but production never stopped.
    Great picture.

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    Well, then!

    From today's La Prensa:


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    Some good insights here:

    https://worldview.stratfor.com/artic...ard-road-ahead


    We had an interesting incident in my area. Venezia is Danielista, although there is a core of liberals that seems to be part of the Evangelical community.

    Sunday the Sandis decided to build a tranque to prtotect Venezia and San Geronimo from a pro-dem attack. We have a lot of big trees, so the idea was to fell a couple of trees, one on each side of the road, to form the tranque.

    The road goes nowhere,, it effectively ends at San Geronimo, where the bus is parked for the night. So the point of a tranque is kind of lost on me. But there is a small crowd of guaro drinkers who start on Saturday, and continue until they are unconscious, or run out of money. It probably seemed like a good idea,, exact tribute at the tranque and keep the guaro flowing. One will occasionally half heartedly chuck a rock at my truck if I happen to pass a gaggle of them. We don't have much crime up there, opportunistic chicken thievery tops the list.

    Anyway, to get to my point, one of the trees fell on one of the brave defenders of the revolution,,

    killing him.
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