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    Nicaragua Daily update ⋅ July 11, 2018
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    Nicaragua crisis: '38 killed in bloodiest day' - NGO BBC News
    Sunday was the deadliest day in Nicaragua since a wave of anti-government protests started in April, a local human rights group says. According to ...

    Nicaragua crisis: '38 killed in bloodiest day' – NGO - St. Lucia News Online (press release)
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    Government allies rough up priests at Nicaragua church siege ABC News
    Masked supporters of Nicaragua's government attacked a group of Roman Catholic priests led by Cardinal Leopoldo Brenes on Monday as they ...

    Government allies rough up priests at Nicaragua church siege - Crux: Covering all things Catholic
    Nicaragua: 10 protesters, one parliamentarian among 14 killed in anti-govt protests after president ... - Firstpost
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    Bishops, journalists attacked at church in Nicaragua Catholic News Service
    COPAN, Honduras (CNS) -- Nicaraguan bishops and clergy were attacked by armed groups aligned with the government July 9 as violence in the ...

    Masked thugs attack PRIESTS in Nicaragua as they try to rescue anti-government protesters ... - The Sun
    Bishops, journalists attacked at church in Nicaragua - National Catholic Reporter
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    Nicaragua: Senior Officials Responsible for Abuse Human Rights Watch
    (Washington, DC) – High-level Nicaraguan officials bear responsibility for grave, pervasive abuses being committed on their watch, Human Rights ...


    International Rights Groups Slam Ortega For 'Shocking' Nicaragua Regime Violence WLRN
    The past few days in Nicaragua have been some of the bloodiest since protesters began calling for the removal of President Daniel Ortega in April.


    Nicaragua: Masked men assault bishop, intimidate nuncio and cardinal ROME REPORTS TV News Agency
    On Monday, the nuncio to Nicaragua, Cardinal Leopoldo Brenes, and Auxiliary Bishop Silvio José Báez were assaulted in a church by a group of ...

    Mobs Attack Priests at Nicaragua Church Siege - Nicaragua News (blog)
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    Snipers Hunting Down Citizens in Nicaragua, Former Army Major Says Q Costa Rica News
    That is the explanation by the former major of the Nicaragua Army, Roberto Samcam, after analyzing the latest report of the Asociación Nicaragüense ...


    Ortega's VP wife says Nicaragua leaving 'darkness' behind Journalducameroun.com - English - (press release)
    Nicaraguan Vice President Rosario Murillo on Tuesday said her violence-wracked country is leaving behind its “darkness,” and defended her ...


    Bishops attacked by pro-government mob at basilica in Nicaragua Catholic News Agency
    Managua, Nicaragua, Jul 10, 2018 / 04:01 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- A group of bishops in Nicaragua who went Monday to free a group of protesters ...

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    A US-Supported Coup in the Making in Nicaragua Havana Times
    HAVANA TIMES – In Nicaragua the media that don't belong to the government or the presidential family are overflowing with voices demanding the ...


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    https://www.journalducameroun.com/en...rkness-behind/

    Ortega’s VP wife says Nicaragua leaving ‘darkness’ behind


    She's the darkness.
    I hope they leave one ChayoPalo standing,, for when this is all over.


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    “Our government is defending peace, the right to life and public safety… including the right to have people, vehicles and merchandise circulate freely,” Murillo told state media.

    The right to life, or we'll kill you. No road blocks, or we'll kill you. And you're the terrorists.

    You can't reason with the criminally insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonh View Post
    “Our government is defending peace, the right to life and public safety… including the right to have people, vehicles and merchandise circulate freely,” Murillo told state media.

    The right to life, or we'll kill you. No road blocks, or we'll kill you. And you're the terrorists.

    You can't reason with the criminally insane.
    John,

    I agree with you and really want the Ortega's gone for many reasons.

    However, blocking roads and stopping commerce is not the answer and the government has the right to restore commerce. They do not have the right to kill and beat unarmed, un-convicted citizens with paid vigilantes.

    Ortegas big lie is "our government is defending peace"........Her government has been raping the country economically with the blessing of both commercial interests and the Catholic church. The church traded passage of abortion laws for their blessing of the establishment of the Ortega Dynasty.

    Plenty of blame to go around here including a passive citizenry that allowed it to happen and citizen acceptance of government corruption.
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    Anyone who thinks there is a peaceful solution to this is as insane as the Ortegas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonh View Post
    Anyone who thinks there is a peaceful solution to this is as insane as the Ortegas.
    Are you referring to me?

    If so, please point out just where I mentioned a peaceful solution.

    The insane ones are the children students and the catholic priests that think that bricks, bibles and words will remove a dictator.
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    Not you. Just a general statement. I had been thinking a few days ago, naively as it happens, that it’s very honorable of the Nica people to attempt a peaceful resolution that works in their favor, If it worked, it would be quite a feat. Dunno what I was thinking. Let’s gas up KWP’s C170.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Corn Tom View Post
    The insane ones are the children students and the catholic priests that think that bricks, bibles and words will remove a dictator.
    The economy got him last time and it is going to get him this time too, eventually. Country is going to in shambles economically, maybe worse than the early 90's due to incurred debt by individuals, companies, and government. I don't for one minute think that the Padre's and Students are insane, maybe naively optimistic, but not insane. Everyone talks and things change once the pain is enough, and the pain isn't enough for Ortega yet, but it will be when all those Sandi's that got used to living large ain't got a pot to piss in and the Commandante is telling them to "suck it up" in the name of the revolution.

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    If insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...

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    It does all seem straight from Central Casting, but with no guarantee the Ortegas are going to fall peacefully and if they do no guarantee the next bunch will be any better in the long run.
    The first few years I was here I did some study on Nicaragua's history and politics and concluded "If I were God" I would petition the King of Spain to take back Nicaragua and modernize it.

    The opposition strategy has worked for them so far, the mask is off, even lefties like the OAS, the UN, and Comrade Frank are knocking Nicaragua. But as the casualty rate keeps growing the opposition is going to have trouble keeping it "peacefull". The last civil war lasted 15 years and trigger a 25 year depression and resolved nothing.

    If the Ortegas fall there are a lot of possible outcomes, including anarchy, a narco state, a new Haiti, or a new Detroit, or some new better Sandinistas to start the cycle over again. The hoped for free market democracy is also an option, but it is the dark horse candidate. Some new better Socialism will probably be on the list for many, including a lot of snot nosed students.

    Not just the Sandis are going to have to suck it up. All the middle income new rich who have gotten a taste of the consumer society are going to be hurting, and they aren't going to react by going back to working the land or laying bricks.

    People here are nervous and scared, and I don't blame them.

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    The most efficient form of government is an enlightened, benevolent dictatorship, and I am all for it. However, it appears that the Hispanic culture is incapable of producing or accepting such a person and I say this looking at the last 250 years or so of New World History. Perhaps it is just impossible for any human being to remain enlightened, benevolent and a dictator.
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    Let’s gas up KWP’s C170.

    Definitely the fastest if we could get someone to give us the GPS guided bomb.
    I could haul it down my next trip. Espino has got used to all the weird shit I show up with,, wouldn't give it a second glance.

    As far as the plane goes,, I'd just steal one at the airport,,, doesn't have to be a Cessna,, just enough payload for the pilot and the 500 Lbs. I'd fabricate the release from a rack,, couple of starter solenoids, screw it to the belly of the ,, ... whatever.

    It's going to be a one way trip,, NO WAY you are going to land with that bomb hanging few inches from the tarmac.

    The problem is, What Then ?? Unless someone like Pellas steps up, someone with true management skill and no reason to steal,, it will be chaos, unbrideled lawlessness, the darkness the Chamuka talks about,, and a LOT of hungry and sick kids .
    Maybe the army will step in,, but that's always a " . . be careful what you wish for . . ."

    Steady pressure,, early elections in 2019, monitored by ---everyone.

    Just maybe we could avoid a bloodbath.

    Remember the Sandinistas didn't have guns for the longest time. Herty hauled them down from California in his VW camper bus with the false floor. I did the same with sheets of pywood when I was building my place in Mexico.
    Of course,, it was a lot closer.

    There are plenty of guns for the having,,, more importantly,, who knows how to shoot straight?

    That 14 month old baby with the bullet in his head doesn't engender a lot of confidence.

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    Pinochet was enlightened, benevolent, and a dictator. He stepped down when the time came and then was hounded by nit picking left wing human rights turds until the day he died. No respect!, as Rodney Dangerfield used to say. If the Ortegas leave power, it will be interesting to see if the human rights turds persecute them for life or give them a pass.

    We'll know Nic has saved itself when they rename the cutesy lakefront development Puerto Pinochet. Our maybe they will really succeed when they can the politics and just name it the Managua Lakefront!

    At the time of the revolution, Nic. had 2.5 million people. If they would have had a capitalist revolution they might have made something of the country. Not likely, but a possibility. Now they have 6 million people on the same resource base, a bad infection of socialism, and they live in a much more competitive world. Time is running out on countries like Nic.

    Keep your gallo pinto fresh and hope for the best.

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    In case the authorities are reading this, we're talking about a love bomb. Yeah. The first couple is clearly in need of some love. Like the Beatles said, "All you need is love." Or was it Monty Python and "all you need is cash." I think that's the left's stated solution to gang violence too, MS13 are angels inside and just need some love. One hundred and sixty eight grains of love from five hundred yards otta do it.

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    Ho, hum. Nic is a 400 year problem, not a momentary crisis.
    Everybody wants a quick solution, but quick solutions backfire. The sudden demise of political leaders is not something to joke about for a lot of reasons. One of which is because it almost always triggers a wave of repression against the general population.

    The mask of western civilization and rule of law is wafer thin in Nic., don't push it. This goes double for blighted areas like the Segovias and la Costa.

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    I think that the point is,, Nicaragua cannot move forward until the enamored couple leave.

    We're in a stalemate. As long as Rosario's " love and peace " prevails,, and 30+ people continue to die on a weekend,, Nicaragua will remain a shithole.

    We've been talking about Nicaragua's potential since I discovered the place six years ago. I'm still bullish on the people. The culture fascinates me.

    I guess we'll see what happens today and tomorrow. And next week. And next month.

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