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    LaPrensa posted this today which I had wanted know, but never found a source...

    State workers 162,113

    Ministry workers 134,254

    Decentralised workers 27,859

    Referenced here (not sure if it is behind their pay wall)

    https://www.laprensa.com.ni/2019/11/...posts-economia

    This puts the payrole at almost 325,000 of 6 million that is 18% of the population in direct employ of the goverment.
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    Then consider that approx half of the Nica Population is not of working age. Is a staggering #on the payroll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bill_bly_ca View Post
    LaPrensa: This puts the payroll at almost 325,000 of 6 million that is 18% of the population in direct employ of the government.
    Quote Originally Posted by cookshow View Post
    ... a staggering #on the payroll.
    Welfare by another name. In the US 52.2 million (2012 census) were on welfare (40 million on SNAP (food debit card)) which was 17%. 52% (more than half) of American kids live in homes with someone on the dole. Take a look at the German viewpoint:
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    The welfare state is an unfair "Catch-all" - Some countries can seem to implement a working model of safety net, and others (like the US) are bound by certain dogmas and unchanging ideas that leave those who have fallen down, and want to get back into the mainstream, (typically) in an endless spiral down.

    But you can not have unlimited upside without the unlimited downside, which is what the US is... From an observer's point of view..
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    Default Re: Interesting Number(s)

    Quote Originally Posted by bill_bly_ca View Post
    The welfare state is an unfair "Catch-all" - Some countries can seem to implement a working model of safety net, and others (like the US) are bound by certain dogmas and unchanging ideas that leave those who have fallen down, and want to get back into the mainstream, (typically) in an endless spiral down.

    But you can not have unlimited upside without the unlimited downside, which is what the US is... From an observer's point of view..
    Not sure what this means. I'm not disagreeing, I just don't know what it means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonh View Post
    Not sure what this means. I'm not disagreeing, I just don't know what it means.
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    During the rust belt recession I lived in my car for a few months while working full time so I know the drill. One of my best friends lost his home and eventually ended up a groundskeeper on a vacation home in the middle of the Mohave.

    A country without factories will never have enough jobs for the mid-end people who are willing to work but don't have skills in demand. American capitalists exported their jobs to china and elsewhere. American socialists, Democrat and republicrat, can't bring them back and prefer to create handout programs. Hence, the Trumpster trying to save America from itself.

    Watched the first part of the tape, usual Eurotrash Trump bashing. They knock us while they give their land to Muslims and Africans.
    Doesn't seem to mention hostile minorities destroying whole cities, immigrants taking jobs, affirmative action discriminating against white workers or why so many of these people don't have functional families. Nor the drug problems.

    Maybe if the government stopped subsidizing housing the prices and rents would collapse and be more affordable.

    And last but not least, Americans believe in living high on the hog while they can and whining when it goes bust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by el duende grande View Post
    American socialists, Democrat and republicrat, can't bring them back and prefer to create handout programs. Hence, the Trumpster trying to save America from itself.

    From what I have seen (Canada, 20+ yrs of sales / technical support in the US / a bevy of family in the Netherlands)

    It seems the US takes a "Pay them and make them go away, arrest them if they comeback" sort of tact. While in the EU, Canada and Aus/Kiwis have a "here is a bit of pay and here are other services to get on your feet". When I was downsized I managed to see the amount of support first hand. When our kids were born Chilo was able to take 6 months off on EI (About 60% of her regular pay) each time with out issue. Etc etc blah blah blah

    That by no means means it is perfect - We still have people on the street and in Cars. I ordered a bunch of portable stoves and a few packs of the solid stove pucks and dropped them off at a local tent city in a bush bown by a local creek. Most are rebellous teens who struck out on their own and don't want the shelter or older folks that have some sort of issue to look for support, but if they wanted the support it is there.

    Are there fraudsters - Sure there are - But there seems to be enough staff to weed them out, or atleast keep them to a minimum
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