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    A bit of truth from the NYT:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/03/h...y-testing.html


    " . . And yet the virus appears to be killing fewer of the people it infects. In April and May, Covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, led to as many as 3,000 deaths per day, and claimed the lives of roughly 7 to 8 percent of Americans known to have been infected. The number of daily deaths is now closer to 600, and the death rate is less than 5 percent. . . "

    I don't know what reporting service the NYT is using, but I'm not seeing 600 daily deaths anywhere. When the numbers are finally tallied, i suspect that the mortality rate will be less than 2%.

    I get the same sense of Nicaragua,, plenty of cases, but deaths are falling.

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    " . . . .Experts are also reluctant to place too much emphasis on falling death rates. “We’re training a lot of attention on the idea of mortality,” said Dr. Jennifer Tsai, an emergency medicine physician at Yale University. Behind that picture, she added, there is a great deal of suffering. Reports from around the world have painted a sobering portrait of chronic Covid-19 syndromes, some of which last for months. Patients may be saddled with physical and emotional distress that persists long after the virus has left their bodies . . .".


    I personally would be afraid to go into a hospital with Covid now,, There has to be an incentive to keep the numbers up. One might fall victim to the "Greater Good"

    There is still four months to the election. Trump is coming back, desperate measures will be in play.

    As Serac says in WestWorld III: " We could have made this such a better country. But, there are outliers, who won't conform . . . Like my brother . . "

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    Default Re: Cases Are Up, Deaths Are Down

    I don't know what reporting service the NYT is using, but I'm not seeing 600 daily deaths anywhere.
    Two days ago 616 deaths were added to USA's total.
    When the numbers are finally tallied, i suspect that the mortality rate will be less than 2%
    Looks like they're at 2% now. Anything that's newsworthy is fair game in politics. Headline: "Congress Announces Willingness To Offer Black Lives Matter Protesters Their Own Holiday Or A Statue" in the Onion.

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    Worldometer 7 day average 511 on a slow decline. Deaths are down because they are using new techniques, not turning away patients, and Dems are not killing off people in nursing homes.

    Cases are up because of more testing, more people exposed due to opening the economy, and stupid young people in bars and beaches. And tourists in my hometown.

    I don't know if Trump is still counting on this going away Aug 1 by magic, but most likely there will be like a sliding scale of more people at risk upping the numbers and some people taking precautions lowering the numbers.

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    If there were 8 billion "cases" with the same number of deaths, they could say the same thing. I've read a lot of allegations that people are told they are testing positive when they didn't even take a test. Or when they called to confirm, they said it was actually negative. The whole thing is a cluster intercourse. In Florida, a whopping one percent of residents have "tested" positive.

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    and somewhere in China they are sipping tea and saying "why didn't we do this sooner..."

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    What if a certain percentage of the tests were designed to return false positives, and the supplier can adjust that percentage based on how much fear they want us to feel? And those who've had the Rona just had a cold or the regular flu?

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    Default Re: Cases Are Up, Deaths Are Down

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonh View Post
    What if a certain percentage of the tests were designed to return false positives, and the supplier can adjust that percentage based on how much fear they want us to feel? And those who've had the Rona just had a cold or the regular flu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonh View Post
    What if a certain percentage of the tests were designed to return false positives, and the supplier can adjust that percentage based on how much fear they want us to feel? And those who've had the Rona just had a cold or the regular flu?

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    Like my old river running buddy chuck used to say "Reality is a Fig Newton of your imagination".

    I sometimes feel like we are at a defining moment in history, like when in 1945ish the British Empire got downsized to a second or 3rd rate power.
    Are we the newest, greatest Banana Republic the world has ever seen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyWestPirate View Post
    " . . the virus appears to be killing fewer of the people it infects. . . " i suspect that the mortality rate will be less than 2%.
    "Fauci calls focus on lower coronavirus death rate, touted by Trump, ‘a false narrative’," headline in today's Washington Post. Fauci is America's top infectious-disease expert, so you'd better pay attention and stop spreading false stories.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddy-YO View Post
    "Fauci calls focus on lower coronavirus death rate, touted by Trump, ‘a false narrative’," headline in today's Washington Post. Fauci is America's top infectious-disease expert, so you'd better pay attention and stop spreading false stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drlemcor View Post
    "Who are you going to believe? Me or your own eyes?" --Groucho Marx
    The numbers have been erratic recently on my favorite "numbers" site,, Worldometers.info

    Today showed the numbers way up, and interestingly,, the nightly news in Arizona reported the same 117 deaths as did worldometer.

    A couple of days ago,, it was one death. I understand that many localities report in bunches, and looking at the bar graphs on the site confirms that. Arizona has a consistent peak one day a week.

    We have a few "Karens" running amok in Tucson, reporting mask non-wearers, and bars that are still open. There were 11 named on the news tonight. Bars, not mask non-wearers.

    This is getting frustrating for many. Tucson has an outfit with a $450 million contract who will give you a shot of antibodies if you have a covid diagnosis. It doesn't keep you from getting sick but supposedly will blunt the worst of it -provided you get the treatment soon enough.

    We live in a brave new world:
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