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    F#ck that $hit.....someone needed to eat the meat.....I for one like the Creole cookin of the big ;ones......
    Creole cooking...mannn, suddenly I wanna eat a big bowl plenty of rundown, What ya think for a good tasty one, beef or fish?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaudali View Post
    Creole cooking...mannn, suddenly I wanna eat a big bowl plenty of rundown, What ya think for a good tasty one, beef or fish?
    I like 'em both....with yucca.....Pass on the cocanut ,it gives me the $hits....
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    If you are fishing for survival, eat whatever you can catch and cook is fine by me. Heck we even left a bunch of Snook and Trevally to a few indians alongside the river when we remembered to keep the fish so we could give them away. We kept some nice Snook to eat and for the guides families, no issues there.

    Tarpon aren't the best eating fish. Not too great of a meat yield for the size of the fish you are killing and very bony flesh.

    I'd urge all sportsmen to release Tarpon, and don't have issues with the locals eating them as long as the number of nets don't increase exponentially, like they have in many areas of the states...
    My lure caught this one and a few others....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky-Guy View Post
    If you are fishing for survival, eat whatever you can catch and cook is fine by me. Heck we even left a bunch of Snook and Trevally to a few indians alongside the river when we remembered to keep the fish so we could give them away. We kept some nice Snook to eat and for the guides families, no issues there.

    Tarpon aren't the best eating fish. Not too great of a meat yield for the size of the fish you are killing and very bony flesh.

    I'd urge all sportsmen to release Tarpon, and don't have issues with the locals eating them as long as the number of nets don't increase exponentially, like they have in many areas of the states...
    My lure caught this one and a few others....
    I gone tell ya something, I like snook, one of the best brakish water fishes ever had a scale....

    But that net you have in your hands bro is illegal for Nicaragua

    Now I know there has always been friction between the Sporties and us commercial boys from time immortal.

    We both are into conservation but fight about it....


    Gill netting if properly done is one way of being assured of selective harvesting a species of fish, small ones got thru it and the larger ones caught.........

    But that killer you have in your hands, drounds and loses the big ones and capture the juveniles that should be allowed to pass....

    I would have really F#cked it up had I been there......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky-Guy View Post
    If you are fishing for survival, eat whatever you can catch and cook is fine by me. Heck we even left a bunch of Snook and Trevally to a few indians alongside the river when we remembered to keep the fish so we could give them away. We kept some nice Snook to eat and for the guides families, no issues there.

    Tarpon aren't the best eating fish. Not too great of a meat yield for the size of the fish you are killing and very bony flesh.

    I'd urge all sportsmen to release Tarpon, and don't have issues with the locals eating them as long as the number of nets don't increase exponentially, like they have in many areas of the states...
    My lure caught this one and a few others....
    Which states have had the number of gillnets rise expotentially? This century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Plain John Wayne View Post
    I gone tell ya something, I like snook, one of the best brakish water fishes ever had a scale....

    But that net you have in your hands bro is illegal for Nicaragua

    Now I know there has always been friction between the Sporties and us commercial boys from time immortal.

    We both are into conservation but fight about it....

    Gill netting if properly done is one way of being assured of selective harvesting a species of fish, small ones got thru it and the larger ones caught.........

    But that killer you have in your hands, drounds and loses the big ones and capture the juveniles that should be allowed to pass....

    I would have really F#cked it up had I been there......
    What makes that net illegal in Nica?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikingo View Post
    Which states have had the number of gillnets rise expotentially? This century.

    Washington, Oregon, Alaska for starters. I would bet that any state that allows tribal netting have seen the numbers increase. here in Washington the tribes basically do what they want and get away with everything from overharvest beyond allocated quotas to wonton waste of netted fish. With the Roe markets thriving in Japan, they net the salmon, strip them of thier eggs, and throw the entire carcass back in the water because the eggs are worth way more than the meat on the fish.
    It's beyond disgusting.Stewards of the environment and natural resources my ass!

    They net Wild Steelhead like the fish that was released in my avatar, even though their populations are crashing. They wont care, the nets will be fishing until the last fish is gone. Then, somehow the decline will be the white mans fault. Must be habitat loss eh? ...You can have all the habitat in the world, but it doesnt matter if your river is choked with nets.

    One thing I noiticed in Bluefields and Pearl Lagoon is that the habitat remains largely unaffected due to man. Pristine. Hopefully Nicaraguans will have the foresight to protect what they have before Multinational Corporations move in and turn your mangroves into resorts.
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    The fisherman in the main body of Apanas(lower side),have been using these nets indiscriminately for years, while the upper area of Apanas(Asturias my fishing hole) HAD been almost net free for years,the fishermen in the upper area catch them the good way, with wooden poles and a piece of line and bait and by trolling rattle traps behind their pangas,they are extremely successful at it .
    Well recently the lower fisherman have been trying to fish the upper area with their huge gill nets,one time I found an over 100 feet one,and shredded it to shit .
    The upper fisherman are against gill nets,and will destroy any nets they find,instead they used a rope with about 100 pieces of line and hook with dead bait, attached to the rope,about 2 feet apart, set the rope along the lily pads,at night and pick up the rope the next morning,they catch up to 10-20 guapotes and catfish per rope,which is usually one rope per family,this ropes are a pain in the ass to set up and harvest,but they do it,every day.
    That is why I've come to love this region of the lake and it's people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Just Plain John Wayne View Post
    I gone tell ya something, I like snook, one of the best brakish water fishes ever had a scale....

    But that net you have in your hands bro is illegal for Nicaragua

    Now I know there has always been friction between the Sporties and us commercial boys from time immortal.

    We both are into conservation but fight about it....


    Gill netting if properly done is one way of being assured of selective harvesting a species of fish, small ones got thru it and the larger ones caught.........

    But that killer you have in your hands, drounds and loses the big ones and capture the juveniles that should be allowed to pass....

    I would have really F#cked it up had I been there......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky-Guy View Post
    Washington, Oregon, Alaska for starters. I would bet that any state that allows tribal netting have seen the numbers increase. here in Washington the tribes basically do what they want and get away with everything from overharvest beyond allocated quotas to wonton waste of netted fish. With the Roe markets thriving in Japan, they net the salmon, strip them of thier eggs, and throw the entire carcass back in the water because the eggs are worth way more than the meat on the fish.
    It's beyond disgusting.Stewards of the environment and natural resources my ass!

    They net Wild Steelhead like the fish that was released in my avatar, even though their populations are crashing. They wont care, the nets will be fishing until the last fish is gone. Then, somehow the decline will be the white mans fault. Must be habitat loss eh? ...You can have all the habitat in the world, but it doesnt matter if your river is choked with nets.

    One thing I noiticed in Bluefields and Pearl Lagoon is that the habitat remains largely unaffected due to man. Pristine. Hopefully Nicaraguans will have the foresight to protect what they have before Multinational Corporations move in and turn your mangroves into resorts.

    With the money coming in from gaming (casinos) and environmental awareness becoming more of a mainstream concept you are going to see a change. I am originally from Puyallup and I am very much in touch with the indians in that location. I remember in the 70s people were throwing bales of hay from the Puyallup river bridge to tear up the indian's nets. Last I heard every member of the Puyallup tribe receives $2000 a month, tax free, everyone, for their end of the gaming.
    Most of the indians I know made a lot from the smoked salmon and I have bought a ton of that in my life.
    Times are a changin and you just have to let nature take it's course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FisherCigarman View Post
    The fisherman in the main body of Apanas(lower side),have been using these nets indiscriminately for years, while the upper area of Apanas(Asturias my fishing hole) HAD been almost net free for years,the fishermen in the upper area catch them the good way, with wooden poles and a piece of line and bait and by trolling rattle traps behind their pangas,they are extremely successful at it .
    Well recently the lower fisherman have been trying to fish the upper area with their huge gill nets,one time I found an over 100 feet one,and shredded it to shit .
    The upper fisherman are against gill nets,and will destroy any nets they find,instead they used a rope with about 100 pieces of line and hook with dead bait, attached to the rope,about 2 feet apart, set the rope along the lily pads,at night and pick up the rope the next morning,they catch up to 10-20 guapotes and catfish per rope,which is usually one rope per family,this ropes are a pain in the ass to set up and harvest,but they do it,every day.
    That is why I've come to love this region of the lake and it's people.
    Actually FCM longlines,hooks are way more indiscriminate than gillnets if your concerned about harvesting fish according to size and species. I personally dont think rivers are the place to have viable commercial fisheries, just too fragil.IMHO

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    I respectfully disagree ,and this is not done in Rivers,but rather on the lake,I've never seen it on rivers.
    The way I've seen it,it's hard to catch an undersize fish with these lines.
    and since the only species on the Lake are Guapote and Catfish,that's ALL they catch,and avoid hooking smaller fish by using larger hooks.

    Quote Originally Posted by bikingo View Post
    Actually FCM longlines,hooks are way more indiscriminate than gillnets if your concerned about harvesting fish according to size and species. I personally dont think rivers are the place to have viable commercial fisheries, just too fragil.IMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikingo View Post
    What makes that net illegal in Nica?
    The mesh is to small it will catch the little ones and the big ones that get tangled will more often than not be lost, that is the reason for the size of the webbing law.....

    What the size minimum is I cannot remember but my eyes tell me that net is out of bounds.....
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    My understanding is that Pearl Lagoon is pretty far from Randy's home base, could you share costs, logistics etc?
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    Where will you be coming from to give you an idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chas_sailor View Post
    My understanding is that Pearl Lagoon is pretty far from Randy's home base, could you share costs, logistics etc?

    Hi Chas,

    Costs for a Pearl Lagoon trip are as simple as a one-time $100 Fuel surcharge over his daily rate of $350.00. This includes 3 hot meals, fishing, lodging, drinks, a fine cigar if you like. In short, Randy and Rosa will get you anything you'd like while you stay.

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