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    MANAGUA PRICE
    Oh Lordy here goes 'ole JW down another wonderful road in beautiful downtown Puerto Cabezas. I am sure it will be another cluster f*ck as surely as the many others I have fallen into in the past being ONE STUPID GRINGO. One that is not only out of his own tree; but in somebody's elses back yard in one on top of it.


    As yall are probablity aware of; the old HP computer Thom gifted me with several years ago after reaching the ripe old age of seven years and four months of faithful service between the both of us. And without a minutes problem more or less, decided to start giving me more of a headache than this dumbass rrednek is able to handle. My tollerance level of things I cannot fix just goes only so far. Even with all the free advise available on Google, here, and from my friendly neighbor Mr. Dale who is the Earnest P. Worell of computers out here also living on the edge of a tropical rainforrest.


    So I know the old friend that the computer has become to me is fixin' to shit the bed. Now I have learned enough about computers to know they are a lot like Politicians, NOT TO BE TRUSTED any further that you can pick one up and throw the basturd. Difference is the computer has never lied to me. And for that reason I alway's back up any work done on it so I'm ok there.


    Now I started not by chiose mind you but kinda out of semi-nessicity to thhink about another one to take her place. I really don't have to have one for what work I do, but it's like having a good woman around ya. Damn ya miss her when she's gone, but aggrivating when she is around and acting up a bit being a thorn in ones side.


    So my wife, bless her heart tells me; Sweetheart, we can get ya a new one from the CURACACO or something like that on time payments. I have excelent credit there from the things like my cell phone, the clothes washing machine, and the kitchen table you bought for us over the years. They told me I now have a rating I can take out any item in the store for no money down and just start making the monthly payments on.


    OK I get to lookin' and Uuuu ya know how it is when ya consider there has been good service out of a certian brand of product and somehow ya mind is tellin ya that should be the next brand to stick with when it done so well. So I get a hold of some of 'em monthly fliers and get to lookin for what these exploiters of monthly installment plans have to offer.


    Good thru the month of August is the offer I see, Make, same thing, Model same thing, year, NEUEVO new. Up to date, brand new baby with the same features. Bigger memory and all that Jazz. Monthly payments, $40 when ya add up what they call a Quota of a Quencinal of payments of every 15 days. OK so I get to thinking about it and wheather or not I can squeeze it into my monthly budget. I take a serious look at things and feel I can get it in under the wire at that price.


    I know damn well the payments are going to last forever, or at least till the next "Blue Moon" is in the year 2015, perhaps a little longer Hell I didn't figure it zackly. So I tell her and circle the item on the flier... THIS IS THE ONE I WANT. She goes there and comes back and say's Ya gone have to wait till Tuesday of next week when their new shipment from Managua comes in, There's not going to be a problem with it none at all.


    Now at this point I have no idea why the red flag in my head didn't show it's ugly face, the alarm bells on the Main Engine didn't go off warning me of low oil pressure or high water cooling tempreture. Or the float switch in the bildges didn't sound off the horn to wake everyone up on the boat. But they didn't, all of them in my mind failed to function.


    Tuesday comes rolling around and she goes to get my new computer and I am thinking to myself, JW this is gone be your next 5 years birthday AND Christmas gift to yourself... How ya like 'em apples? Middle day she come strolling into the office with it in the box, wasn't gift wrapped but still looked good as I slid it out the box it was packed in.

    Sweetheart where are the papers for it I want to put them in the filing cabenet? Oh, they were real busy in there and told me to come back in two or three day's for that. OK I said, kinda letting it go in one ear and out the other. You know how it is, a kid with a brand new toy, and in his hands.


    Come on, you been there and ya know blasted well what I am talking about.


    So I start in doing all the stuff to it that needs doing on a computer, keyboard in English and trying to get the display langague in the same as said and all the registering that goes with it etc. Not forgetting about still fixing the old one to SELL to my youngest son, Well, actually trade it off for labor I get him to do around the house that is not in his normal duty of chores anyway. Trying to get used to the bit different keyboard with my left pinkie finger and like taking another boat; getting to know it.


    Well last night here comes my wife into our bedroom where I have one corner set up to do what ever I want on the computer while at home and says here's your papers sweetheart. Good attitude, no animosity, not raising hell or anything and just presents me with them. Shit, she hadn't even looked at 'em but I did. Darlin' something is wrong here they want $120 dollars a month for this Toy! This is not the price that was advertized in the flier, I am not going to be able to live with this!


    John, you Gringo Dummy, that in the flier is Managua Price, we got it for Puerto Cabezas Price. Trying to tell me things cost here three times the prices as in Managua. It's the one you asked for isn't it John?


    Yes darlin' but not the price that I had planned on. You dummy, that is Port price you cannot expect Managua price here, things don't work that way; this is Nicaragua. Good night, I'm going to bed, that is your problem now, I got what you wanted. Well I slept on it and got up and started writing this little narrative and decided what this crazy Gringo is going to do about it. My mind is made up and I will not change it.


    Later today I am going to wipe this thing clean, pack it back in the box from whence it came and in a nice civil way tell her to take it back and with the flier she can tell those people from where it all come from INCLUDING the flier that if her Stupid Gringo Husband cannot get the advertized price that he does not want it. I guess the locals are not used to seeing that done here, but I sure will.
    To be called a "Has Been" I must surmise, is much Greater than to be called a "Nevah Been"... JW...



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    Silly Ass Gringo, Trix are for Kids.
    ‎"You know what you say when people tell you you can't do something? Fool, shut your mouth up!"
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    Barely 5am and going to have to change pants. MGA Price....
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    Ever feel like ya'r petting the kitty while the hound pees down ya leg?

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    Lessee...

    HP 2000z, basic laptop, U$370 after rebate.

    Shipping via mule, cost variable; zero to infinity.

    Import duties - another $370? Who knows.

    Total cost $740, divided by $40/month = 18.5 months to pay it off.

    Stupid gringo!

    And yes, I've been there with the new toy thing, not giving a damn about the paperwork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonh View Post
    Lessee...

    HP 2000z, basic laptop, U$370 after rebate.

    Shipping via mule, cost variable; zero to infinity.

    Import duties - another $370? Who knows.

    Total cost $740, divided by $40/month = 18.5 months to pay it off.

    Stupid gringo!

    And yes, I've been there with the new toy thing, not giving a damn about the paperwork.

    You can import up to $500 worth of stuff every six months, so duties would be zero. The folks handing you the package do take down your cedula or passport number. Only mules worth hiring are the barter ones. I'd rather pay the shipping/postage on stuff and have it insured with a tracking number. Even for regalos, the correos people make me unpack the box in front of them and check to make sure contents matches the invoice or shipping list.

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    This mule has brought stuff to my buddy JW before - if I happened to be going I'd do it for free. It was a video camera packed in my checked bag, no one asked and I didn't declare it. Not sure if those days are gone.

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    They never questioned me on my laptop in my backpack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MizBrown View Post
    You can import up to $500 worth of stuff every six months, so duties would be zero. The folks handing you the package do take down your cedula or passport number. Only mules worth hiring are the barter ones. I'd rather pay the shipping/postage on stuff and have it insured with a tracking number. Even for regalos, the correos people make me unpack the box in front of them and check to make sure contents matches the invoice or shipping list.

    Lot's of good advice for JW, but I think he is talking about needing it today and here.
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    Try to beat them up on price(negotiate), That is one mistake tourists fail to do when shopping in a third world country, don't ever pay the price they ask for....
    Dios es Amor!

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    She got the pay it off quick plan, that was not what I wanted... I wanted the forever plan sounds like it is not a problem to change... We'll see on Monday...
    To be called a "Has Been" I must surmise, is much Greater than to be called a "Nevah Been"... JW...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonh View Post
    This mule has brought stuff to my buddy JW before - if I happened to be going I'd do it for free. It was a video camera packed in my checked bag, no one asked and I didn't declare it. Not sure if those days are gone.
    A friend brought a camera down for another friend in November. She also had about three of her own cameras with her, with a street value of umpty dumpty dollars. The trick, so so I've heard,is not to keep more than one camera in the original package.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Greco View Post
    Try to beat them up on price(negotiate), That is one mistake tourists fail to do when shopping in a third world country, don't ever pay the price they ask for....
    Nicaragua has soft bargaining. You get one go at getting the lower price, then take it or leave it. Hard bargaining, at least in Jinotega, is considered toxically rude. Your interpreter will hear complaints about the sort of jerk he's friends with, and all his friends will hear about how this jerk damaged the interpreter's friendships with people who work in the market.

    Good example of a shop owner instructing her clerk on how much to drop prices is on the video/film "La Yuma." A forty cordoba item from a street vendor can go down to thirty (she's got to the end of the day to make a profit on what's she's selling).

    If it's really obvious that the price is very much out of line (like it's equal to the US store price for something, or more), simply don't buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MizBrown View Post
    Nicaragua has soft bargaining. You get one go at getting the lower price, then take it or leave it. Hard bargaining, at least in Jinotega, is considered toxically rude. Your interpreter will hear complaints about the sort of jerk he's friends with, and all his friends will hear about how this jerk damaged the interpreter's friendships with people who work in the market.

    Good example of a shop owner instructing her clerk on how much to drop prices is on the video/film "La Yuma." A forty cordoba item from a street vendor can go down to thirty (she's got to the end of the day to make a profit on what's she's selling).

    If it's really obvious that the price is very much out of line (like it's equal to the US store price for something, or more), simply don't buy.
    It is the customer's God given right to bargain as much as possible, I learned that from The Jews in Miami Beach
    Dios es Amor!

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    Sounds like a lot of money for a computer.

    I know I am not in Port, but I just paid $228 for a laptop that works just fine. It needs a little memory, but that is not a huge issue. Getting maximum memory for this thing would bring the total to $300. I have been using this thing for a month without adding memory and getting by just fine.

    I know the location is the main issue here, but you need to know what we are paying here to know how much you are getting gouged on taxes, finance fees and shipping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Greco View Post
    It is the customer's God given right to bargain as much as possible, I learned that from The Jews in Miami Beach

    It's the seller's right to hire little boys to get the price difference out of you by either begging or getting you to yell at them and turn red.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MizBrown View Post
    It's the seller's right to hire little boys to get the price difference out of you by either begging or getting you to yell at them and turn red.
    That is called Capitalism
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Greco View Post
    That is called Capitalism

    63% of the voters here said they didn't want it, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MizBrown View Post
    63% of the voters here said they didn't want it, thanks.
    One very well educated and high up Nica told me

    It is so easy to manunipolate poor ignorant people..
    To be called a "Has Been" I must surmise, is much Greater than to be called a "Nevah Been"... JW...



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    Quote Originally Posted by MizBrown View Post
    63% of the voters here said they didn't want it, thanks.
    I guess that is how you get to be the second poorest nation in the hemisphere despite enormous assets.

    Your point is?
    Life's different here ... It's a whole 'nother pace.

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    I have heard about how they conduct elections there... it is nobody's business

    And the Sandistas get everything they want as the rest suffer. So yeah, keeping a communist leader in power would be pretty easy that way.

    Miz Brown is so proud of this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Plain John Wayne View Post
    One very well educated and high up Nica told me

    It is so easy to manunipolate poor ignorant people..
    Unfortunately it is the truth
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    Quote Originally Posted by MizBrown View Post
    63% of the voters here said they didn't want it, thanks.
    One specious statement deserves another:

    Castro wins 100% of the "votes" in the $ucialist Workers Paradise (Cuber).

    When it's all said and done, there's nothing left to say or do... ~~~Where's MY spy camera?~~~

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    Quote Originally Posted by randude View Post
    Miz Brown is so proud of this?
    Up to and including "fist-pumping" the Red and Black.
    When it's all said and done, there's nothing left to say or do... ~~~Where's MY spy camera?~~~

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    Quote Originally Posted by off2paradise View Post
    One specious statement deserves another:

    Castro wins 100% of the "votes" in the $ucialist Workers Paradise (Cuber).

    I couldn't have said it better.

    And in in every socialist/communist country there is a massive black market. So it is all smoke and mirrors. They say this and that, but in reality capitalism is the most basic human instinct.
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