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    Quote Originally Posted by cookshow View Post
    Because a top worker in the Campo tops out below $10 day, closer to $5 be much more common, when there is work.

    But it is all relative though.

    Yeah.....I know two times zero is still zero.
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    The price of beans, rice, chicken, etc are lower in USA than in Nica, not sure about other CA countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cookshow View Post
    The price of beans, rice, chicken, etc are lower in USA than in Nica, not sure about other CA countries.

    Are you kidding?
    Life's different here ... It's a whole 'nother pace.

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    Not kidding.
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    Wife keeps complaining about the cost of living but I pay no heed. What am I going to do, move us to the Canaries and retire?

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    All I have to go by is the internet, but what I found is this for chicken breast:

    Pricemart Managua, U$2.14/lb
    Costco Jacksonville, U$9.09/lb. Organic is $12/lb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonh View Post
    All I have to go by is the internet, but what I found is this for chicken breast

    Pricemart Managua, U$2.14/lb
    Costco Jacksonville, U$9.09/lb. Organic is $12/lb.
    Even with stimulus check in my pocket I would have to pass on $9# chicken.

    Majority of Nicas not eating filete de pollo. It is only chicken I buy in Nica, is by far best deal for meat.

    Sav a lot sell leg quarters 49 cents # on sale, whole chickens 69-99, never see chicken under a buck in Nica.

    Pulperia chicken is usually around 40c #, in pound or so bags, about 1/4 of that water weight/trash.
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    Big, juicy, hormone laced leg quarters were $0.29 a pound last week on sale at HEB in South Texas in 10 pound bag. This week $0.39 cents.

    I always found chicken and pork more expensive in Nicaragua, beef on occasion could be cheaper but the cuts were rough. Filete/tenderloin was cheaper in Nicaragua and ground beef sometimes. Anything processed is 50 to 100% more expensive in Nicaragua. What is very affordable is local fruits and veggies, but as we know aside from rice and beans the Nica's don't partake too much in that stuff, save for casava and plantains. Seafood was hit and miss, with shrimp sky high away from the east coast, lobster was middle of the road unless you had a hookup to buy local.

    Clothes are expensive as hell in Central America, new ones anyway and even the used stuff is 2.5X the price per the pound vs. the US. Tortillas and bread were affordable. I think rice is more expensive in Nicaragua.

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    Gasoline is insanely expensive in Nic. How about housing?

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    Housing is hard to figure, lot of people in shacks on other people's land, so guess is free until owner burns you out.

    Can rent a "house" for under $100 in any part of country I have seen. I rented a little house on El Bluff for $50 month, not much to look at but had a decent roof on it & indoor plumbing, but reason so cheap was no work so no one to rent it.

    Lots live on family land and housing but are at the mercy of family abroad that hold the paper.

    Pre 2018 when a middle class was emerging those box house developments were popping up, think they started around $20k.
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    Whatever food prices may be, campesinos seem to be generally on the lean side, city dwellers seem to be more like frikin elephant seals. They’re eating crap like Americans do, or something. Americans are frikin elephant seals, too.

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    Ha, should see the Coast, love their fried food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cookshow View Post

    Pre 2018 when a middle class was emerging those box house developments were popping up, think they started around $20k.

    Across from us those $25K cookie cutters 5 yrs ago are now pushing $55K - And all of the lot, save 5 or 6 have sold... I assume it is either Sandi faithful or the new precarious middle class.

    Coyotepe

    Now some of them look speculative - Especially the dual lot they are trying to unload @ $139K IIUC

    That is from 100 or so lots they started with.
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    Across from us those $25K cookie cutters 5 yrs ago are now pushing $55K - And all of the lot, save 5 or 6 have sold... I assume it is either Sandi faithful or the new precarious middle class.

    Coyotepe

    Now some of them look speculative - Especially the dual lot they are trying to unload @ $139K IIUC

    That is from 100 or so lots they started with.

    The conundrum about economies in LatAm is that as the economy gets shittier the value of real estate will go up. Why? Cords/Pesos/Limps/Etc. possibly losing value and many of them chasing the same thing due to some semblance of real value in something tangible and real. I have spent most of my life in LatAm and I will be GDammed if I truly understand the ups and more ups of the real estate in those countries.

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    The north has seen impressive appreciation.
    I believe it's driven by remesas and the investment of tobacco money.
    $25K shotgun lots are not uncommon.


    Four Mz of what was part of my original farm just sold for $20K.
    I could have bought it for $800 Mz when I bought the original farm twelve years ago.
    I didn't want it (and still don't).

    It has no surface water, although it is heavily wooded (pine).
    It has road frontage on one side, although access will be poor due to the slope.

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    I noticed the same thing in small town AZ. Housing prices out of reach of local workforce, with retirees often having higher incomes than full-time workers. Prices pumped up by demand and outside money, in particular the dreaded Californicators.

    Prices in the new Dubai are ridiculous, big shed house near the kids just sold for 45k, although I don't know what the inside was like. Kids just bought an oversized (slum) lot for 23 k, with the bonus that the neighbors already had walls up. (You can't touch their walls, but it puts off the time before you have to put up your own walls for security).

    Locals blame the Cubans, but it is remittances and mga sandi money driving up prices, plus new regs are making developers pretend to do things right, like storm drainage, etc.

    Incidentally, industrial and commercial growth on the Pan am are impressive. I guess nobody told them there is a recession going on.

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    I know of one Kalifornia civil servant who’s retiring and put their small house in LA up for sale at over $800k. It sold in about a week for over the asking price. Since they’re moving out of state, that much money will buy them a kingdom, practically. Other than dealing with capital gains tax, I’d want to buy the cheapest retirement house I could, and have fun with the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonh View Post
    Other than dealing with capital gains tax

    You folks pay capitol gains on your house? We don't pay capitol gains on our primary residence.
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    As one relative explained it years ago :L.A. isn't a home town anymore, its just a place for foreigners to make money then take their money and leave.'

    My Hi skool graduation class was going to have a 50 year reunion. should have been a go with a class of 900. Cancelled because they couldn't find enough people left. They must be all in refugee camps like AZ and FL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bill_bly_ca View Post
    You folks pay capitol gains on your house? We don't pay capitol gains on our primary residence.
    Married filing jointly, the first $500k is exempt. That covers us hoi-palloi, but not the middle class in Kaliforniastan.

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    Married filing jointly, the first $500k is exempt. That covers us hoi-palloi, but not the middle class in Kaliforniastan.
    Ah OK - No limit for us, but we can't deduct mortgage interest.

    Interesting bit is that once the house in Masaya passes $100,000 cdn of value it needs to be reported on our taxes - I am not even sure how to even get it appraised when done - I think it will always be far less than that
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    How would Canada know you own it?

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    How would Canada know you own it?

    Good question as it is registered under Chilo's Cedula and in her maiden name. Honestly I am not even sure what it entails as it is just a Yes /No box you check on your taxes.
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    Just submitted our taxes (Ours is due May 1) and checked up on that 100,000 statement...

    Revenue Canada foreign property Of course it is tax related.

    Cool trick of our tax system I made use of the first time this year - Click one button - Link takes you to a page where you choose your bank - You log into your bank to validate you are you - It throws the token back to revenue Canada's web server and it pops all of your tax info to your return automagically - Just need to hit the e-file and you are done. B/C Chilo got CERB (Somewhat like the US incentives but you actually had to loose work to get it) _and_ it was not taxed - The sum made her owing tax this year.
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